The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread...

[D.o.S.]

That's not really how this stuff works, unfortunately. I am moving away soon, though I don't think I'll be leaving this gig until I find a comparable one.

[waltdogg]

[odontophobia]

That's not really how this stuff works, unfortunately. I am moving away soon, though I don't think I'll be leaving this gig until I find a comparable one.

are you able to keep your job when you switch locations? if so that's dope.

[Disarm D'arcy]

Telecommuting is the shit.

[popvulture]

Currently waiting for a benzo to kick in, extremely shaken up after the last straw in a sequence of outrageously unreasonable requests from a client that have made me more and more furious over the past week.

Long story short: I designed an and animated a project that was supposed to last about a month but has extended to more like three. Near what was supposed to be final delivery, a simpleton bigwig at the agency's client decided to endlessly nitpick and generally shit all over what was a perfectly solid piece. After numerous revisions that continued to be met with inane micromanaging, I, for the first time in my career, backed out of the project and basically told the clients to go fuck themselves and find someone else to finish it.

I suppose I should just consider myself lucky to be financially sound at the moment, and that I'm starting a proper staff job as Design Lead at an agency in January where I'm unlikely to deal with such agonizingly provincial fuckwits. That said, I've billed them for what they owe and they probably won't pay me. Money aside, to me the worst thing is that it was a cool looking project until someone decided to tear it to bits for no reason other than their own insipid vanity.

To paraphrase Carlin, fuck 2016. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. Then break it off and beat it with the rest of it.

[Disarm D'arcy]

[popvulture]

Thanks, bud. I get too mad. I just can't deal with idiots. They turn me into a screaming tea kettle.

[D.o.S.]

Currently waiting for a benzo to kick in, extremely shaken up after the last straw in a sequence of outrageously unreasonable requests from a client that have made me more and more furious over the past week.

Long story short: I designed an and animated a project that was supposed to last about a month but has extended to more like three. Near what was supposed to be final delivery, a simpleton bigwig at the agency's client decided to endlessly nitpick and generally shit all over what was a perfectly solid piece. After numerous revisions that continued to be met with inane micromanaging, I, for the first time in my career, backed out of the project and basically told the clients to go fuck themselves and find someone else to finish it.

I suppose I should just consider myself lucky to be financially sound at the moment, and that I'm starting a proper staff job as Design Lead at an agency in January where I'm unlikely to deal with such agonizingly provincial fuckwits. That said, I've billed them for what they owe and they probably won't pay me. Money aside, to me the worst thing is that it was a cool looking project until someone decided to tear it to bits for no reason other than their own insipid vanity.

To paraphrase Carlin, fuck 2016. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. Then break it off and beat it with the rest of it.

I'm sorry but the text needs to be in comic sans and that is non negotiable.

[popvulture]

I used to tell my students that they should never, ever use Comic Sans, even ironically.

Then of course I'd have one who'd decide to be a wiseass and do it anyway, and I'd say "Cool, just edit that type right there and replace it with an upper case F. Sit back and observe—take in the letterform."

[D.o.S.]

that's savage.

I actually don't understand what makes it so universally detested, I mean I get the visual weight argument but -- and this might be my own biases seeping in -- it seems like "something you should never use" is just begging for someone to use it.

[popvulture]

that's savage.

I actually don't understand what makes it so universally detested, I mean I get the visual weight argument but -- and this might be my own biases seeping in -- it seems like "something you should never use" is just begging for someone to use it.

Yeah, I know what you mean—I've had both smart and not so smart students ask why certain fonts are considered "good," and my only real answer is that beyond pleasing geometry, it boils down to subjective, established aesthetic norms.

But to be more specific about Comic Sans, two things:

1. It's just ugly. In general, typefaces that emulate handwritten things have a fatal flaw: in truly handwritten lettering there would be no repetition—each "a" would be a little different. Because of the recurrence of forms in a typeface that emulates, it usually comes off as unnatural and canned. Also, Comic Sans is meant to look specifically like the hand lettering in comics, and frankly there are just tons of other typefaces that do it much better.

2. Comic Sans is one in a list of many shitty, free fonts that typically come with a Windows computer. These are usually knock-offs of established typefaces, Arial being a substitute for Helvetica, for example. In the design world, the general position is "why would you use that when you can use the much better looking real thing?" There's something especially cheap and unprofessional about typefaces like Comic Sans and Papyrus, which is usually why you see them on shitty menus and party invitations made by people who have no eye for design. That's admittedly snobby of me to say, but that's what art school does to a person. I don't think people who use Comic Sans are idiots or anything, rather that they're just untrained.

There have been plenty of people who break the rules and use reviled typefaces well—I've seen some grads from the uber-hip Yale grad school use Arial in a very cool way. I don't think I'll ever see Comic Sans used in a way that I'd find palatable, though.

[D.o.S.]

This doesn't work nearly as well without the background color, but this is my favorite example:


From:
http://www.comicsanscriminal.com/

[popvulture]

Haha yep, totally.

Times New Roman is another example of one that comes on every computer, modeled after pretty old classics (Garamond, Caslon). It's not bad.

An analogy I could think of would be if you were baking a cake, would you use mix from a box or would you make a cake from scratch out of considered, quality ingredients? The homemade cake will likely be classier and tastier, but there are plenty of times when the mix is what you want.

Look at me getting all Home Ec. Also, Comic Sans in food form would probably be something like aerosol cheese product.

[odontophobia]

Haha yep, totally.

Times New Roman is another example of one that comes on every computer, modeled after pretty old classics (Garamond, Caslon). It's not bad.

An analogy I could think of would be if you were baking a cake, would you use mix from a box or would you make a cake from scratch out of considered, quality ingredients? The homemade cake will likely be classier and tastier, but there are plenty of times when the mix is what you want.

Look at me getting all Home Ec. Also, Comic Sans in food form would probably be something like aerosol cheese product.

Comic Sans is Cheese Wiz/EZ Cheese.

[Iommic Pope]

Times New Roman is my fucking font.
Mostly from having years of writing with it at uni.

I work for a NGO human services company.
Until I cracked it a few years ago and changed everything to Times New, EVERY DOCUMENT was in Comic Sans.
I should have quit on the spot.
I almost did.