The Last Jedi

[gnomethrone]

Its a movie designed to sell toys and in-app purchases to kids guys. If you want intricate space politics George Lucas made you your own trilogy in the early 2000s.

[Blackened Soul]

Its a movie designed to sell toys and in-app purchases to kids guys. If you want intricate space politics George Lucas made you your own trilogy in the early 2000s.

You are a funny person. It's not about "intricate" it's about not being transformers.

[weebles]

Its a movie designed to sell toys and in-app purchases to kids guys. If you want intricate space politics George Lucas made you your own trilogy in the early 2000s.

Welp.

[gnomethrone]

Ha sorry im on my way to my inlaws for the holiday and feeling grinchy. Yeah these new ones are almost more remake / reboots than sequels the way they just lift familiar elements from the originals. Who needs continuity when you got porgs? Here's my off the cuff totally not thought out fan theory:
The star wars universe always has two opposed political factions because they are the physical manifestations of the light and dark side of the force. No matter how many legislatures / planets / death stars get blown up it will just always keep repeating as the occult hand of subtle energy maintains balance. We perceive it as heroes and villains and good versus evil because that's what we want to see but really the universe just keeps creating and destroying because that's what it does.

[weebles]

Yeah that’s essentially what the Clone Wars and Rebels cartoons are getting at.

[MechaGodzilla]

The GOOD clone wars cartoon didn't get at anything except badass tartakovsky animated battles. Such efficient drama, especially when it was 3-minute shorts.

[gnomethrone]

Yessss I nailed it lol. Never seen em cause im a big boi and the only cartoon I watch is Mr Pickles.

[JereFuzz]

I finally saw it ... much better than 'awakens ... and a grest movie overall ... nothing was overdone; good humor, aliens, cute fuzzies, etc.

[JereFuzz]

Ha sorry im on my way to my inlaws for the holiday and feeling grinchy. Yeah these new ones are almost more remake / reboots than sequels the way they just lift familiar elements from the originals. Who needs continuity when you got porgs? Here's my off the cuff totally not thought out fan theory:
The star wars universe always has two opposed political factions because they are the physical manifestations of the light and dark side of the force. No matter how many legislatures / planets / death stars get blown up it will just always keep repeating as the occult hand of subtle energy maintains balance. We perceive it as heroes and villains and good versus evil because that's what we want to see but really the universe just keeps creating and destroying because that's what it does.

Read schopenhauer's on the suffering in the world - or listen on youtube

[gnomethrone]

checking it out now
"Unless suffering is the direct and immediate object of life, our existence must entirely fail of its aim."
That's quite an opening line lol

[JereFuzz]

Another thought: if you can destroy massive ships by blasting into them at light speed...why doesn’t every kamikaze pilot do that? Or put hyperdrives on a goddamn bantha? Bombs away!

My first, exact thought just when they were about to do it!

I was like "but then just have every small ship kamikaze-lightspeed into the big ones and you win the war"

Huge plothole, unless they explain it via some kind of.. they had a really strong engine sort of thing.. i dunno

Or why not create hyperdrive missiles? No kamikaze needed!

[BetterOffShred]

Saw it today. My grievances are numerous. It seems the only way Rian Johnson, Abrahams and the rest of these guys expect for the series to be taken seriously is to kill off the classics. I won't bitch too much as I let it percolate a bit, but yeah man. Lots of questions.

[JereFuzz]

Saw it today. My grievances are numerous. It seems the only way Rian Johnson, Abrahams and the rest of these guys expect for the series to be taken seriously is to kill off the classics. I won't bitch too much as I let it percolate a bit, but yeah man. Lots of questions.

At least it is its own movie rather than a reimagining of a previous movie (‘Awakens - New Hope) - I felt like this movie could survive on its own merits; I think a person who knows nothing about Star Wars lore could totally enjoy this ... of course I also liked valerian

[BetterOffShred]

I was alive when return of the Jedi came out and star wars has been a part of my life since I was 4. This being said it saddens me to see how they have injected Harry potter and the hunger games with a glaringly politically correct multicultural cast into a vehicle to remove the aging stars of what I grew up loving. And I don't know, maybe they all wanted to be out.. it just feels cheap and like a weird facsimile.

[MechaGodzilla]

They definitely wanted out. I'm pretty sure Harrison ford would never work again if he didn't have helicopters to pay for.