mr. sound boy king wrote:IVL Kramer PitchRider 7000
Curious about your plan on getting signal into it (does it come with the pick-up?). I have an IVL 7000 (pre Kramer, I think, so changes may have been made) but sans pickup so I've cobbled together a breakout box of sorts that connects each of the six channels to the 8 pin DIN input with their own jack. Only two channels appear to work on mine (I'm not ruling out installer error yet) but those two are fun for pitch to MIDI translation and erosive data processing.
It's funny, I was just this morning thinking about trying to fix mine or hunting up another one. Nice to see the oddities in the wild!
MIDI Guitar 2 for iOS will do the voice pitch to MIDI trick easy enough if you don’t want to get a Pitchrider. Running the phone or pad mic into synth app stuff just for random household sounds is ridiculously fun.
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codetocontra wrote:Scheming again. Thinking about getting a Culture Vulture to run as a stereo preamp into something like a Mesa 50/50 stereo power amp. Someone stop me. Please.
Are you just wanting it for playing through or is it something you'd use for heavy lifting in mixing applications?
If just for playing through and live use, I'd maybe consider a used Drawmer 1960 as well.
Hey, cool suggestion. Yes, I was thinking about a guitar rig, not for just mixing and processing. Aside from crazy prices there are more practical solutions that I have purposely and foolishly ignored in favor of doing something different.
I did get a chance to play a buddy's Mesa Studio Preamp into his Fifty/Fifty and it was quite a bit of fun and sounded great. The caveat he explained is that it is best to follow the suggested settings in the manual since many of the knobs interact with each other down stream and makes it difficult to dial in settings like anyone normally would.
Assuming we ever get to play shows I am unsure I want to carry around a 6U rack or two tube amps for a wet/dry setup.
mr. sound boy king wrote:IVL Kramer PitchRider 7000
Curious about your plan on getting signal into it (does it come with the pick-up?). I have an IVL 7000 (pre Kramer, I think, so changes may have been made) but sans pickup so I've cobbled together a breakout box of sorts that connects each of the six channels to the 8 pin DIN input with their own jack. Only two channels appear to work on mine (I'm not ruling out installer error yet) but those two are fun for pitch to MIDI translation and erosive data processing.
It's funny, I was just this morning thinking about trying to fix mine or hunting up another one. Nice to see the oddities in the wild!
Very cool re: breakout box. I wasn't aware that the pick-up was required to get signal into the box. Hmm! We'll see if the pick-up arrives (doubtful) - looks like I could have a project on my hands.
Gone Fission wrote:MIDI Guitar 2 for iOS will do the voice pitch to MIDI trick easy enough if you don’t want to get a Pitchrider. Running the phone or pad mic into synth app stuff just for random household sounds is ridiculously fun.
Rad. I've previously used a Sonuus thing to do pitch --> MIDI but wasn't aware of iOS possibilities. I'm pretty dumb when it comes to iOS and extracting MIDI from iPad --> DIN connectors, though. Would be cool to sort that out, lots of neat sequencers in iOS, I understand...
mr. sound boy king wrote:We'll see if the pick-up arrives (doubtful) - looks like I could have a project on my hands.
Give me a yell if you have any questions, I know what I came up with supports at least two pitch to MIDI converter channels. I did a blog post on it years ago, but am not 100% certain any conclusions I drew back then are true.
As it stands, I'm somewhat motivated to submit it to the o-scope based on a compositional idea that needs resolving.
mr. sound boy king wrote:We'll see if the pick-up arrives (doubtful) - looks like I could have a project on my hands.
Give me a yell if you have any questions, I know what I came up with supports at least two pitch to MIDI converter channels. I did a blog post on it years ago, but am not 100% certain any conclusions I drew back then are true.
As it stands, I'm somewhat motivated to submit it to the o-scope based on a compositional idea that needs resolving.
So the IVL Kramer PitchRider 7000 did arrive without the pick-up, d'oh. I basically have no clue how to go about hacking something together to get audio into the rack. Any thoughts appreciated on how you got your break-out box together!
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In other news, the Proteus 2000 is the shit. The patch randomizer rules and the rack spews out 1990s cartoon noises, no problem.
mr. sound boy king wrote:So the IVL Kramer PitchRider 7000 did arrive without the pick-up, d'oh. I basically have no clue how to go about hacking something together to get audio into the rack. Any thoughts appreciated on how you got your break-out box together!
(On mine) the socket on the face of the rack is an eight pin DIN. I used a seven pin DIN which omits the center connector (which I had concluded is the audio through channel), only because I had the part on hand.
All the grounds are connected together at 1/4" jacks and the black banana, those connect to pin 6 on the DIN connector (note that the pin numbering is goofy). The drawing is of the connector facing the pins- so the panel socket will be a mirror of the drawing.
I can only confirm that on mine pin 1 (red) communicates on the low E/6th string channel, and pin 2 (yellow) communicates on the A/5th string channel - with both referencing pin 6 (upper left in the picture, 6 & 7 were hiding) as ground/common.
I can also confirm that a standard 5 pin DIN (MIDI type) will fit, but misses the ground, and that a 5 pin wide spacing will *not* fit, so stick with 7 or 8 pin standard DIN (not mini-DIN).
20 gauge solid core copper from Romex/house wire clippings will also slide right into the socket connectors, and might be a cheap way to test before you buy some oddball connector from somewhere.
tremolo3 wrote:I thought I was crazy when I was looking at a lot of rackmount sampler threads on different forums for the last weeks, but then this happened just yesterday: https://reverb.com/news/getting-started ... t-samplers
I hope this doesn't lead to rack sampler prices getting jacked up. I might have to start panic-buying these now. So many are under-utilized as bit crushers too basically. Well atleast i got a reason to buy an emulator now.
Semi-related though I got the gassies for one of those digital delays The Edge severed heads and skinny puppy used got some primitive sampling on those but the delays are insane. Got really cool modulation, heard a demo of the 2000 and it sounded like the vocal delays on this:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpCcEnHRhyc[/youtube]
imagine finding out your son is your daughter & she's into noise music
i was not aware of this thread when i posted a thread about old rackmount gear yesterday. my current rack:
Yamaha GEP-50 with an SPX-90 in its effects loop. this allows me to use a reverb patch and an Early Reflections patch simultaneously, which makes for some nice room sounds. i have 3 or 4 presets i created for small, medium, large, and Cavern In The Clouds.
Alesis MidiVerb II. i love this thing to pieces for its "warm" sound. i need to deep-dive the non-verb functions, which i haven't messed with in years.
Rane SP15 parametric EQ. does what it says on the tin.
Rane MC22 compressor. i'm not in love with this unit, which seems best suited for brickwall limiting. i haven't tried it on non-guitar sound sources, though, where it might be more useful for attenuating transients on acoustic guitar and vocals
i'm planning to split this into two separate racks: one for the reverbs which all use 1/4" connections only, and one for the post-processing stuff which can all use XLR plugs. the verbs will get a case with latching lids so i can take them out with me; the other stuff will stay in the carpeted rack casing with no lids since that stuff will probably never leave the house.
i'm planning to get a second SP15 so i can run in stereo. I'm also watching a couple of Yamaha graphic EQs, which are hella cheap.
i can't find the Ibanez delay mentioned above, but there's one that's similar (i think), the DM1000/1100. it's an 8-bit processor from the 1980s which has a delightfully grungy sound, and has modulation options that let you do sick things to the repeats as well as a HOLD switch which is a primitive sample-and-hold looper. you can change the delay and modulation settings while the loop is running, which allows all kinds of sound warpage.
i did not know till today that Drawmer made units that civilians could afford. as an MBV fanboi this definitely has my interest. could someone elaborate on these for me?
and what other old rack gear do you think i need for psychedelia, shoegaze, and psychedelic shoegaze? i'll take my answer on the air.
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got some primitive sampling on those but the delays are insane. Got really cool modulation, heard a demo of the 2000 and it sounded like the vocal delays on this:
