The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[whiskey_face]

fuck ya fullstack-in-flats.

also dat carpet

[CaptainBoxman]

So you know whiskey, the curtains DO match the carpet


It's so so so horrible

[conky]

Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

Don't do it. There's a hype behind the Model T that in some circles is justified but I personally don't see it. The Matamp has a better preamp section (not just a glorified Fender Bassman), the only place where the Sunn might win out is the power amp section. The sunn is 4x6550's running in Ultra Linear, so it can do loud, very very loud.... but that's it IMO, and your band doesn't seem obsessed with loud but more with tone which I think you'll find more of in the Matamp. Also the Sunn is 40 years old, so along with that retube your gonna need a recap and who knows what else in maintenance to make it reliably gigable.

Yeah, I like loud but I like tone more. The Matamp gets plenty loud for me as is. The thing with this one is the guy says its an original 73 with about 2 hours of use since it was bought new. That makes me really weary. I don't wanna go through and retube and recap an amp that was traded for a perfectly functional amp. One day I will get my hands on a Model T just to see what all the hype is about. I'm not gonna let the Matamp go to get it though. Cash is already getting stashed away in a secret fund towards a Dunwich in the future anyway so its all good.

i guess i actually agree that if you have fantastic relationship with the matamp, don't trade it. getting your hands on a model t would be awesome, but truth be told, i have a magical relationship with my jmp. i love that fucking thing. if someone wanted to trade me a model t for it, i wouldn't do it. i know i could sell the model t at any point and have more than enough money to buy a similar model of my old amp back, but it wouldn't be that amp. my amp sounds fucking great and i love it. i'd be a fool to trade something that i know is good for me to test out something i don't know. i know another one would be similar, but it might not be exactly the same. amps, and tube amps in particular, are individuals. often one is not the same as another of the same model. if you've got a good thing going, hold on until it seems like that amp isn't your thing anymore.

i know this totally contradicts my previous post, but i've thought about it more and my ideas are different now. i spoke too soon before.

Your previous post was valid and it was the only reason I could think of to justify trading. In the end though, I love the Matamp and they are just about as rare as a Model T around here so i know it'd be a bitch trying to get one back so I'm just gonna stay like I am.

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Tonehenge

[samzadgan]

Fucking Fender sandwich Tonehenge!!! Love it

I played my newly acquired big box rat...and was A/B'ing with the QM...both very different sounds and neither can do what other does...and both sound great. I think the Rat is a keeper...but now i don't know which one to keep on the board. I have another couple of dirt pedals coming too...both BAT...i think I'm going to be rotating that dirt spot a lot!

[conky]

Fucking Fender sandwich Tonehenge!!! Love it

I played my newly acquired big box rat...and was A/B'ing with the QM...both very different sounds and neither can do what other does...and both sound great. I think the Rat is a keeper...but now i don't know which one to keep on the board. I have another couple of dirt pedals coming too...both BAT...i think I'm going to be rotating that dirt spot a lot!

I love the Quantum Mystic. I can get similar tones as the Rat but the QM does that and more. Still trying to figure out how to stack the two. Sounds good in either order, just haven't found a setting that works best for me yet.

[samzadgan]

I tried stacking quickly but nothing good came of it...i had the QM into the Rat.

Im trying to reduce my pedalboard and will only have one dirt pedal...so I'm not really looking to stack. The only exception may be when i get the Black Forrest...that may be an OD/boost.

[conky]

I tried stacking quickly but nothing good came of it...i had the QM into the Rat.

Im trying to reduce my pedalboard and will only have one dirt pedal...so I'm not really looking to stack. The only exception may be when i get the Black Forrest...that may be an OD/boost.

I've been running the Rat into the QM lately.Haven't tried the Black Forest stacked with the QM yet. I bet it will work though. I've found that the Black Forest stacks pretty well with just about anything I tried.

[samzadgan]

Have you been using the QM on your recordings!

[t-rey]

wanna try an amp thats better then a model t, cheaper, and resale will intetest infinitely more buyers? grab a Marshall superbass.

and only ONLY retube amps with nos tubes. these new glass buttplugs are fuckin trash and make vintage amps sound like shit.

TGPDoomz

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udpIxho2Yhw[/youtube]

I like this way more than I probably should.

Ahem, Tonehenge is BACK

Very nice. I dig that Laney cab.

[AxAxSxS]

with all the QM talk in here lately, Figured I should give ya'll a heads up that there is one in the BST.

[emptyparadigm]

Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

Nope. Keep whatcha got.

[Chankgeez]

Ahem, Tonehenge is BACK

Very nice. I dig that Laney cab.

[Droneforbreakfast]

Quick question for you guys, just an opinion thing. If you're listening to a band that has distorted bass and no guitar, do you prefer it to sound very layered and have a lot of depth of tones or just be very obviously a single heavy bass tone? I'm playing around with mixing some solo bass stuff, to try out some sonic ideas and see if there's anything I like the direction of before messing around with complicated rig configurations.

i do some stuff like this and the most important thing is really to get a good, crushing bass tone that you can get dynamic with, other than that, imho, it's just how you use those dynamics. i can get a really good tone with my proper setup and a small pedalboard, and that tone has all the fundamentals but is dense and crushing, but still has enough room to change it around a bit, but it takes a bit of experimentation to be able to do so.

i recommend a good dirt pedal that preserves your bass tone, a good compressor, and a fuzz pedal or another. but bass is such a hugely dynamic instrument i think it sounds good as long as you nail the essentials down very well, whatever you're using.

i like running it through a stereo rig using different speakers, i feel that's kind of overdubbing the sound live

[Kacey Y]

Quick question for you guys, just an opinion thing. If you're listening to a band that has distorted bass and no guitar, do you prefer it to sound very layered and have a lot of depth of tones or just be very obviously a single heavy bass tone? I'm playing around with mixing some solo bass stuff, to try out some sonic ideas and see if there's anything I like the direction of before messing around with complicated rig configurations.

i do some stuff like this and the most important thing is really to get a good, crushing bass tone that you can get dynamic with, other than that, imho, it's just how you use those dynamics. i can get a really good tone with my proper setup and a small pedalboard, and that tone has all the fundamentals but is dense and crushing, but still has enough room to change it around a bit, but it takes a bit of experimentation to be able to do so.

i recommend a good dirt pedal that preserves your bass tone, a good compressor, and a fuzz pedal or another. but bass is such a hugely dynamic instrument i think it sounds good as long as you nail the essentials down very well, whatever you're using.

i like running it through a stereo rig using different speakers, i feel that's kind of overdubbing the sound live

Thanks for the input, I figured that was just going to slip through the cracks. Your take is about where I'm at with it. I'm rock solid on my basic heavy bass tone, just need to dial in my stereo rig. I'm so used to tailoring my tone to compliment guitar in a band situation. I'm thinking blended fuzz on one side, heavy overdrive on the other, with an 8x10 and a 2x15. I've been fine tuning versions of both I really like for a while. The only wild card I was considering was whether to throw in a high pass filter and high gain distortion into a guitar rig as well, to try to make it more full range.

[whiskey_face]

250$ 4x12. to hit, or not to hit.



or this for 200



im leaning towards the 4x12