The Doom Room: ILF Edition

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on the Orange front you should check out the TH100...bigger brother of the TH30...but the newer ones have El34 tubes. I tried the TH30 a while ago, and was impressed by it. It gets dumped into the modern metal category, but to be honest with some fine refinement of the tone knob i could get some really nice doom tones. Also the clean was amazing on it. The one thing that bothered me about it was the fact that it didnt have balls...but the TH100 has EL34's and is 100w...so that should have balls and with the clean channel so nice it will take pedals pretty well.
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odontophobia wrote:Sending some Doom love out to you pope. Hope you can keep your gear.

On the flipped....

I played out of a Fender Quad Reverb last night with my Coven. I didn't fuck around with settings all that much. It belongs to a buddy of mine. I could really get into the tone of it clean but didn't have time to really dial it with my dirt. It did get really farty and buzzy at times but I think it would really benefit from a speaker swap. My buddy bought it, recently retubed, for $600 so it's not like it was a bad deal -- it sounds good, probably great for some of the loud post hardcore type shit he is doing. Did not work as well with the "heavy music for gear nerds and dungeons and dragons enthusiasts" that I've been writing.

That being said... found out I'll probably be getting a bonus coming up here so I think I'm looking for a head to compliment my RedBear MK60. I'm not sure really where I want to be with that though. Definitely need something loud, clean, and pedal friendly. I feel like I'm going to be buying a lot of amps and returning them just in order to try them out.

At my disposal to try I have a 5150, an Orange Rockerverb 50 and a Marshall JCM 2000 Dual Super Lead (50w). Not really sure that any of those are gonna do it for me but who knows. Anything I should be on the lookout for? New or old.


If aiming to pair with the redbear I'd say either the peavey or orange but both of those do have a fair amount more watts. If you willing to go outside of those three I'd say a Peavey VTM60 or Sovtek Mig50. Both of those are similar yet different enough to pair well with the redbear.
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Look into an 80s Butcher. Super clean through the low input and takes pedals really well. 5150s and modern Oranges are more picky on pedals in my experience.
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misterstomach wrote: i'm surprised not to see the hoof getting more respect. everyone loves eqd and that is one of my favorite modern takes on the muff.

Agreed... that's what followed my Musket>Twosome because I was curious how they stacked up against each other. The Hoof just seemed to have a bit more of that Muffy special sauce. I sold it (along with a grip of other kit) in a fit of "I'm not playing blah blah blah" but that might be one I check out again. Or possibly the Cloven Hoof.
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I know this is supposed to be a really djenty-modern-metal guitar... and usually I don't like signature gear... but my favorite color is orange, and it has some really nice pups in it, and damn it, this guitar is giving me bonerz. :picard:

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^^^ I'd love it if Schecter would take just a brief break from the endless procession of minute variations on the superstrat and produce just ONE 7-string Tempest. But hey, no one *else* ever listens to me, so....
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celticelk wrote:^^^ I'd love it if Schecter would take just a brief break from the endless procession of minute variations on the superstrat and produce just ONE 7-string Tempest. But hey, no one *else* ever listens to me, so....


Great minds think alike. I don't care for that shape as much as I once did, but it's still a pretty cool shape. Their more "classic/vintage" shapes seem really cool, but they seem like they could pursue more of those. Those'd be the only Schecter's I'd buy.

Can't help it if their visage and appeal is essentially Hot Topic/Spencers. :lol:
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celticelk wrote:^^^ I'd love it if Schecter would take just a brief break from the endless procession of minute variations on the superstrat and produce just ONE 7-string Tempest. But hey, no one *else* ever listens to me, so....

Yeah the Tempest is a pretty sweet body shape. I don't need anymore strat-alikes, I just really like the aesthetics of this one. If I could get it in baritone scale with a les paul body, I'd cream my jeans.
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pelliott wrote:Look into an 80s Butcher. Super clean through the low input and takes pedals really well. 5150s and modern Oranges are more picky on pedals in my experience.


Modern Oranges with the exception of the OR50 are EXTREMELY picky about pedals, dirt pedals, especially. That's the main reason I unloaded my Orange. I love love love the tone but there's no options if you want variation due to their fickle nature with pedals. Traded for an Ampeg v2 and I don't see myself looking back unless I'm looking at a vintage Orange like an OR80 or OR120.
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van_muddlestein wrote:
pelliott wrote:Look into an 80s Butcher. Super clean through the low input and takes pedals really well. 5150s and modern Oranges are more picky on pedals in my experience.


Modern Oranges with the exception of the OR50 are EXTREMELY picky about pedals, dirt pedals, especially. That's the main reason I unloaded my Orange. I love love love the tone but there's no options if you want variation due to their fickle nature with pedals. Traded for an Ampeg v2 and I don't see myself looking back unless I'm looking at a vintage Orange like an OR80 or OR120.


This seems to be the trend.

I'd be down on a Sovtek but they all seem so overpriced at this point. If I'm patient and can land a good deal I'd consider. VTMs and Butchers don't come up nearly as often.
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Modern Oranges suck if you're looking for the Classic Orange tone, for sure.
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My Sorado has made my pedals sound better than ever. Sunn stuff seems to be almost always a bit overpriced it seems but I have not played anything this clean that still gets so convincingly brutal with pedals. I just got mine for around $300 so there are still good deals to be found on Sunn gear, just not on eBay or Reverb.
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I have a Schecter Tempest and I love it. Every other guitar by them that I've tried plays great.

It's unfortunate that 90% of the stuff they make looks like something from an Affliction t-shirt.
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Still amusing to me that Robert Smith has a sig guitar with them. Just hilarious alongside all of their other affiliated artists.

I'd pimp-slap Kanye West for dat Ultracure VI tho...
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