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phantasmagorovich wrote:I can't tell if that is good english or bad, but it seems a little convoluted.
And you never use first or second person in an academic text. The whole trick is to make it sound like what you are writing is just a truth everyone should know. But since you are writing for the plebeian morons you are going to spell it out. Spelling it out/explaining yourself is always the trick with academic writing. If you explain your point well and prove it accordingly (by annotations) you are golden and contents are almost irrelevant.
In the small portion that Lord Galvar quotes I find it a little odd that you don't cite whose works you mean when you talk about the reading "split down in the middle". You need to put names to these accusations. If you don't you are just a student of 20-odd years telling the whole academic world they're wrong. Not bad in itself, but you need to back that up!
Also I'm not sure if Dionysian is the right term. I'm assuming you are referring to Nietzsche and his Dionysian and Appolinic principles. You are linking violence, sex, death and obsession before you introduce the term. In my memory that is not Nietzsche's Dionysian principle, which is in essence about the loss of boundaries vs the order of the Appolinic principle. I think you might be better served with a psychoanalytic reading focusing on the Freudian "death drive" and it's perversions. Especially if you look into Melanie Klein and Jacques Lacan you might find interesting stuff on the perverse linking of violence, destruction and the erotic.

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Pretty much what I was going for without so much detail haha. That was ll in the PM too.

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lordgalvar wrote:
phantasmagorovich wrote:I can't tell if that is good english or bad, but it seems a little convoluted.
And you never use first or second person in an academic text. The whole trick is to make it sound like what you are writing is just a truth everyone should know. But since you are writing for the plebeian morons you are going to spell it out. Spelling it out/explaining yourself is always the trick with academic writing. If you explain your point well and prove it accordingly (by annotations) you are golden and contents are almost irrelevant.
In the small portion that Lord Galvar quotes I find it a little odd that you don't cite whose works you mean when you talk about the reading "split down in the middle". You need to put names to these accusations. If you don't you are just a student of 20-odd years telling the whole academic world they're wrong. Not bad in itself, but you need to back that up!
Also I'm not sure if Dionysian is the right term. I'm assuming you are referring to Nietzsche and his Dionysian and Appolinic principles. You are linking violence, sex, death and obsession before you introduce the term. In my memory that is not Nietzsche's Dionysian principle, which is in essence about the loss of boundaries vs the order of the Appolinic principle. I think you might be better served with a psychoanalytic reading focusing on the Freudian "death drive" and it's perversions. Especially if you look into Melanie Klein and Jacques Lacan you might find interesting stuff on the perverse linking of violence, destruction and the erotic.

tl;dr: Let's talk on pm's if you want an opinion.


Pretty much what I was going for without so much detail haha. That was ll in the PM too.

I was that 20-year old kid that went after critics (but I supported it, esp. with Whitman...that a-hole ruin all criticism because he was the first critic to analyze his own work (under a pen name). All those academic lame-asses just followed his shit and said that the I in the work was a direct representation of the author which is the dumbest, most moronic thing you can assume in literature. The freaking "I" in a work is always a character even if it is an all knowing narrator or whatever. It is never a direct, exact representation of that author).


Unless it's an autobiographical history dictated from an oral accounting. which wouldn't be literature, anyway.
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D.o.S. wrote:Unless it's an autobiographical history dictated from an oral accounting. which wouldn't be literature, anyway.
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haha. :lol:

Even then, it's an account which is, in many ways, an opinion of what you perceive. There is no such thing as a perfect, absolute account of anything. It's all seen through different perspectives/contexts/etc. All that anything can ever say is that it represents some amount of some aspects of something that has existed. Which I guess is why art, language, or any form of communication must be viewed in the context of something else because without reference, it is meaningless.

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jfrey wrote:Are there any ILF bros in Peru? Going to be there in September for a week and a half.


Zebra Analogic used to be from there but I think the left (and they aren't ILF anyway, just some neat stuff). I know there is a pretty good punk and harsh noise scene down there. My wife is Peruvian and we keep trying to get over there to visit, but haven't.

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lordgalvar wrote:
jfrey wrote:Are there any ILF bros in Peru? Going to be there in September for a week and a half.


Zebra Analogic used to be from there but I think the left (and they aren't ILF anyway, just some neat stuff). I know there is a pretty good punk and harsh noise scene down there. My wife is Peruvian and we keep trying to get over there to visit, but haven't.

Have fun over there.


Zetangas? He's somewhere in Scandinavia now.
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phantasmagorovich wrote:
lordgalvar wrote:
jfrey wrote:Are there any ILF bros in Peru? Going to be there in September for a week and a half.


Zebra Analogic used to be from there but I think the left (and they aren't ILF anyway, just some neat stuff). I know there is a pretty good punk and harsh noise scene down there. My wife is Peruvian and we keep trying to get over there to visit, but haven't.

Have fun over there.


Zetangas? He's somewhere in Scandinavia now.


That's where I thought he went (just checked, it was Sweden). I was actually kinda bummed when I found that out recently. He used to have a good set of links and stuff for the scene in Lima. We never made it down to visit though.

Oh, there was a good 3 part article in Maximum Rock and Roll about Peru recently too.

Dang, his prices went up (and it doesn't seem he has done anything for a few years). Used to make some cool stuff.
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jfrey wrote:Are there any ILF bros in Peru? Going to be there in September for a week and a half.


Going to drink some Ayahuasca perhaps? :joy:
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jfrey wrote:Are there any ILF bros in Peru? Going to be there in September for a week and a half.


You should go here:

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