Count To Five

[sitarman]

My CT5 came in the mail yesterday. I came up with this piece after one hour of fiddling in Mode 1. I use it as a kind of pitch delay creating rhythmic patterns and chords. It is only guitar to CT5 directly in soundcard. Haven't even tried the other modes yet. I am used to looping pedals and so and have read the manual but it is fairly complicated to really understand how the quantize function works and hard to know which quantize interval setting your in. Wish I could somehow see in which of the six Q pitch setting I am (none-chrom-whole tone etc.). That would make it more practical for live usage. One question: how exactly does the Q toggle function? when pushing the switch up it goes through all 6 settings, but how does the toggle down work exactly?

Anyhow I hope you like this piece.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxj867T4Bo[/youtube]

[multi_s]

Anyhow I hope you like this piece.

i know we all know what it sounds like by now
but ive had this pedal for over a year i think? and its still by far my favorite

very nice guys (:

One question: how exactly does the Q toggle function? when pushing the switch up it goes through all 6 settings, but how does the toggle down work exactly?

Both up and down will cycle through the list of modes. Up cycles one direction through the list, down the other. The only special thing with down is that in mode 3 you can hold it down and turn dir 1,2,3 to adjust the volumes of each copy of the loop.

Nick Gill made this nice chart for what everythign does in each mode which is maybe agood reference to print out if the pedal seems very confusing at first.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwlfm ... FFaM3p2UWc

S

[Seance]

(can someone explain the embedding? doesn't work for me)
http://youtu.be/KOxj867T4Bo

Go into FULL EDITOR and then click the "youtube" tab to put
the markers around your URL. Also take out the letter "s" from "https".

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxj867T4Bo[/youtube]

And use this version of that URL from your browser:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxj867T4Bo

Instead of this one that is generated by YouTube to "share":
http://youtu.be/KOxj867T4Bo

Sounds cool, btw.

[sitarman]

Thanks Seance!

Nick Gill made this nice chart for what everythign does in each mode which is maybe agood reference to print out if the pedal seems very confusing at first.

yes I have read that charts. Very good reference! But it doesn't really explain how the the Q switch works in relation to the dir 1 knob. I hear it goes in reverse with the dir 1 knob from 0-50%. But I don't really understand how dir 1 scrolls through the intervals. It seems random but maybe I have to spend more time with it. Also the augmented thirds seem out of tune. But maybe that's because the octave is divided in three equal parts?

[UglyCasanova]

I use mine as a tabletop unit. I really like how it sounds with drum machines and other percussive-ish instruments.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-JdM40F7FA[/youtube]

[multi_s]

yes I have read that charts. Very good reference! But it doesn't really explain how the the Q switch works in relation to the dir 1 knob. I hear it goes in reverse with the dir 1 knob from 0-50%. But I don't really understand how dir 1 scrolls through the intervals. It seems random but maybe I have to spend more time with it. Also the augmented thirds seem out of tune. But maybe that's because the octave is divided in three equal parts?

The active Q mode just forces the DIR 1 setting to only take a subset of values, instead of being continuous. The easiest way to understand it is just go to mode 3. Put E up so there is only 1 read head playing. Then record a single note. Now play with the Q switch and turn DIR 1. This is the easiest way to hear it's effect.

[sitarman]

The active Q mode just forces the DIR 1 setting to only take a subset of values, instead of being continuous. The easiest way to understand it is just go to mode 3. Put E up so there is only 1 read head playing. Then record a single note. Now play with the Q switch and turn DIR 1. This is the easiest way to hear it's effect.

ok I tested some more and now I know what is wrong or why I didn't understand it. When I move the toggle switch up it goes down in the list (from none to 6.fifths) and when I move the toggle switch down it goes up in the list. (from none to 2. chromatic). It is the exact opposite as I was expecting.

Also I noticed that when in 'none' mode that the octave is slightly out of tune. When you go to chromatic you hear it tune itself so to speak. Are both thing normal behavior?

[sitarman]

yes I have read that charts. Very good reference! But it doesn't really explain how the the Q switch works in relation to the dir 1 knob. I hear it goes in reverse with the dir 1 knob from 0-50%. But I don't really understand how dir 1 scrolls through the intervals. It seems random but maybe I have to spend more time with it. Also the augmented thirds seem out of tune. But maybe that's because the octave is divided in three equal parts?

The active Q mode just forces the DIR 1 setting to only take a subset of values, instead of being continuous. The easiest way to understand it is just go to mode 3. Put E up so there is only 1 read head playing. Then record a single note. Now play with the Q switch and turn DIR 1. This is the easiest way to hear it's effect.

ok I tested some more and now I know what is wrong or why I didn't understand it. When I move the toggle switch up it goes down in the list (from none to 6.fifths) and when I move the toggle switch down it goes up in the list. (from none to 2. chromatic). It is the exact opposite as I was expecting.

Also I noticed that when in 'none' mode that the octave is slightly out of tune. When you go to chromatic you hear it tune itself so to speak. Are both thing normal behavior?

[sitarman]

yes I have read that charts. Very good reference! But it doesn't really explain how the the Q switch works in relation to the dir 1 knob. I hear it goes in reverse with the dir 1 knob from 0-50%. But I don't really understand how dir 1 scrolls through the intervals. It seems random but maybe I have to spend more time with it. Also the augmented thirds seem out of tune. But maybe that's because the octave is divided in three equal parts?

The active Q mode just forces the DIR 1 setting to only take a subset of values, instead of being continuous. The easiest way to understand it is just go to mode 3. Put E up so there is only 1 read head playing. Then record a single note. Now play with the Q switch and turn DIR 1. This is the easiest way to hear it's effect.

ok I tested some more and now I know what is wrong or why I didn't understand it. When I move the toggle switch up it goes down in the list (from none to 6.fifths) and when I move the toggle switch down it goes up in the list. (from none to 2. chromatic). It is the exact opposite as I was expecting.

Also I noticed that when in 'none' mode that the octave (dir 1 knob all the way to the right) is slightly out of tune. When you go to chromatic you hear it tune itself so to speak. Are both things normal behavior?

[multi_s]

ok I tested some more and now I know what is wrong or why I didn't understand it. When I move the toggle switch up it goes down in the list (from none to 6.fifths) and when I move the toggle switch down it goes up in the list. (from none to 2. chromatic). It is the exact opposite as I was expecting.

Also I noticed that when in 'none' mode that the octave (dir 1 knob all the way to the right) is slightly out of tune. When you go to chromatic you hear it tune itself so to speak. Are both things normal behavior?

i guess it depends how you imagine the list, to me it does what i would expect.

and to which octave are you referring? you can you make a clip if you think there is a bug and send it to me, i will let you know.

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[sitarman]

and to which octave are you referring? you can you make a clip if you think there is a bug and send it to me, i will let you know.

It is the octave up in 'none' Q mode. So dir 1 knob all the way to the right in mode 1. When you flip to chromatic you hear it raise in pitch somewhat. Not sure if this is normal behavior? Should the octave up be perfectly in tune with the dir 1 knob all the way to the right in 'none' mode?
I didn't test it in mode 2 or 3 only tried mode 1.

[ogguitar]

Downloaded the new update and LOVE the volume control. As far as settings go (i.e. quantization, filter, transcendence, mode 3 head volumes), what all can be saved when the power cable is unplugged, and how do I save it?

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Downloaded the new update and LOVE the volume control. As far as settings go (i.e. quantization, filter, transcendence, mode 3 head volumes), what all can be saved when the power cable is unplugged, and how do I save it?

the update is only the volume right now. i will have another update soon.

and to which octave are you referring? you can you make a clip if you think there is a bug and send it to me, i will let you know.

It is the octave up in 'none' Q mode. So dir 1 knob all the way to the right in mode 1. When you flip to chromatic you hear it raise in pitch somewhat. Not sure if this is normal behavior? Should the octave up be perfectly in tune with the dir 1 knob all the way to the right in 'none' mode?
I didn't test it in mode 2 or 3 only tried mode 1.

could you make a clip and send it to me? mine seems in tune.

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[sitarman]

and to which octave are you referring? you can you make a clip if you think there is a bug and send it to me, i will let you know.

It is the octave up in 'none' Q mode. So dir 1 knob all the way to the right in mode 1. When you flip to chromatic you hear it raise in pitch somewhat. Not sure if this is normal behavior? Should the octave up be perfectly in tune with the dir 1 knob all the way to the right in 'none' mode?
I didn't test it in mode 2 or 3 only tried mode 1.

could you make a clip and send it to me? mine seems in tune.

Yes I will do that this week.

I have two more questions for you:
1) Can you give me the exact milliseconds of all 10 discrete settings of Len B in Mode 1 (when using forward unison setting of the dir 1 knob)? So I can synchronize my drum machine to it.
2) In Mode 1 with the feedback knob all the way to the left (0%) it gives 1 repeat when in forward unison setting of the dir 1 knob. But when using other settings like the octave up it gives two repeats instead of one when the feedback knob is all the way to left. Why is that?

Really love the CT5 by the way. Very inspirational! I have been playing for many hours with it already. Really like mode 1 (my favorite) for pitch delay stuff and mode 2 for fast weird sequences. Have to spend some more time with mode 3.

[multi_s]

I have two more questions for you:
1) Can you give me the exact milliseconds of all 10 discrete settings of Len B in Mode 1 (when using forward unison setting of the dir 1 knob)? So I can synchronize my drum machine to it.
2) In Mode 1 with the feedback knob all the way to the left (0%) it gives 1 repeat when in forward unison setting of the dir 1 knob. But when using other settings like the octave up it gives two repeats instead of one when the feedback knob is all the way to left. Why is that?

1) IIRC there are only 9 settings, not 10. The longest setting on rev k/l boards should be 8.1069 seconds. The next longest is half that (4.05...) then half again... until the shortest setting which is 31.67ms.

2) The signal is fedback from the read to the write head. 0% feedback means that nothing from the read head is fedback to the write head. That does not necessarily imply any particular number of repeats should be heard. For example, at different speeds (DIR 1 setting) the read head may encounter a certain memory space several times inbetween writes to that space, since the write head is always moving at a fixed speed. It is also entirely possible certain memory spaces are not encountered at all inbetween writes, and no repeats of portions the audio are heard at all.