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Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:10 pm
by StudioShutIn
Mudfuzz wrote:I say paint it gumball pink with a flaming scull...


sorry to derail the topic a little but....is it bad that I really wish I had a shell pink Mustang? (of the fender Music Corp variety...not Ford Motor Company :cool: )

:picard:

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:07 am
by phantasmagorovich
Dude, a pink Ford Mustang would be sooooooo badass! And then you can cruise the hood blasting Eurodance from the stereo.

I will stain it first, if it turns out terrible I can still coat it in a cool colour. :thumb:

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:53 pm
by theavondon
RE Grounding: found out that, if attaching to the bridge is not an option, drilling a screw inside the guitar and using that works. Go figure? Tru punx?

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:35 pm
by phantasmagorovich
How about this idea? When drawing templates for a pickguard I thought it might be good to cover the top in graphite. Dark grey with a silvery shimmer? How about that? Would it remain shimmery if you clear coat or seal it?

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:07 pm
by Mudfuzz
From what I remember... it'll end up black... I've seen graphite used to dye epoxy black, and it works for that...

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:23 am
by phantasmagorovich
OK. I had thought so but a confirmation is welcome.

Basically I am down to three options:

1: stain it with wine
2: cream colour in distressed look via steel wool
3: solid gold spray paint

The good thing about these options is that I can put one on the other with little effort. If the first doesn't turn out it'll be cream colour onto that and if that looks bad, it'll be covered in gold.

Pickguard will most likely be red perloid or tortoise or white or black depending on how the colours come out. I have made a template for the guard, without intention it has come to look a little like a merauder. Sweet.

I am still debating if I should put all my money for the next month into new electronics for this or not. I was planning on a Wide range in the bridge and a Filtertron for the neck, both by the creamery. Plus money for the blank perloid, pots and knobs...

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:04 pm
by eatyourguitar
IMO the more wood that is removed from the neck pocket, the less sustain and tone the guitar will have. you want the larger surface area so that it is easier for sound to travel from the headstock to the bridge. the more PSI you put on the neckpocket and bolt holes of the neck/body, the more stress the wood is under. this creates dampening. like an ibanez neck thats super thin and has more presure on the trussrod and the neck wood tends to be very pingy sounding with no sustain. but a SRV neck on a fender has an awesome sustain. also, look at how smooth the neck pocket is on a custom shop and compare that to the chineese neck pockets that are milled very fast on the cnc machine. very rough. that affects the sustain cause there is less surface area making contact even though the rough surface creates more surface area.

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:47 am
by masked elwood
i really like the wine stain idea. :idea:
i'd be careful burning a laminate guitar....i may not go so well and the lam could/would separate.
i think a combo of wine stain and white distressed could be kool. throw on a single layer black guard and that'd be bad arsed. i've used old vinyl LP's for pickguards before. that looks pretty rad especially if you incorporate the label into it. the grooves looks kool too.


BTW...i dug the way it looked on the first stripped pic too.
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either way this is going to turn out fine. fuk it already looks mucha better.

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:00 pm
by kosta
+1 for the wine stain idea. I'm trying out some coffee grounds staining here right now actually (on some plain picture frames...) and it's not staining quite as strongly as I would have hoped, but fun to try anyways. Good luck man! Kudos to you for taking the plunge.

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:33 am
by phantasmagorovich
@ elwood: there was a second stage that had a little more wood showing than this one and that was the best incarnation until now. Sadly I didn't take a pic.
I like the idea with an old record...

@ kosta: Yup, it really is a plunge. And all of my friends thing I am mad. But wtf!
I think the staining will work better if I boil the wine down and reduce the water in it. I am a bit worried the wine might also separate the laminate. Depends on what glue was used, I guess. But I am a little afraid to do it.


Also: sanding off the sealer on the horn is a fucking bitch. That's why there is no progress atm.

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:25 am
by masked elwood
i'm looking forward to seeing how this comes out.
sanding off an old finish is one the most sucky jobs to be done on a guitar (for me)...i hate doing that...takes so long, my hands get all fuct up...and it has to get done so i can get to the part i love doing. lol

you'll be fine with the wine stain just don't submerge the body in it. i'd think a little will go a long way.
this whole wine stain idea is fab BTW....

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:03 pm
by eatyourguitar
after you boil the wine it should contain less acid so less risk of it eating the glue or new paint.

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:09 pm
by mathias
phantasmagorovich wrote:I think the staining will work better if I boil the wine down and reduce the water in it. I am a bit worried the wine might also separate the laminate. Depends on what glue was used, I guess. But I am a little afraid to do it.


Also: sanding off the sealer on the horn is a fucking bitch. That's why there is no progress atm.


At that point I'd just go with a minwax color you like. Seriously, stain is designed to stain wood.. it works. :thumb:

http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/woo ... tml#Colors

You should be able to get something very similar at a hardware store over there.

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:12 pm
by eatyourguitar
using unexpected materials in art is what makes it fun and worth talking about. right?

Re: Pimping a guitar...

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:46 pm
by masked elwood
eatyourguitar wrote:using unexpected materials in art is what makes it fun and worth talking about. right?


mos def!!!!!