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The Kramer aluminums are entirely different beasts than Beans/EGC's/Obstructures/Bastin etc

Kramers were bolt on aluminum necks with wooden inserts to not make them feel as cold and more like regular guitar necks whereas any of the others listed (other than Veleno and Vacarro) are neck-through aluminum which helps stability.

Both of my EGC's are stable tuning wise. My all aluminum goes a quarter step out of tune when it is not being played, but about 5 minutes into holding it, it's good to go and barely ever needs to be tuned. My wooden-hybrid stays in tune constantly.

So what's the drawl to these other than how cool they look? I seriously curious. I'm in the market for a guitar, not at this price range, but down the road perhaps.

What's the pros and cons?

aluminum's sound... a lot of sustain and special hi freqs. I have a vintage Kramer and I am a sucker for Travis Beans and EGCs... which are impossible to find here in Spain

cons: weight, they're heavy as mammoths.

Sustain. Clarity. Cutting through a mix. Wider frequency range. Durability.

^ Yeah, jwar, it's all about the sound, and you won't really know how different it is (yet still familiar - it's still a guitar, after all) until you play one. My Harvester hybrid (aluminium spine, from tremolo to tuning pegs) makes all my other guitars sound kinda lifeless by comparison. The clarity and the metallic, klangy undertones and harmonics are incredible. And that stays constant whether you're running it clean, straight into an amp, or through a shitload of pedals. It even makes fuzz sound better! And as skully says, it can really cut through a mix. Sounds great in a mix with a second guitar.
I also really love the feel of the aluminium in my fret hand. The Harvester neck might feel a little different to other aluminium necks (because of Anthony;s compound radius design) but it definitely feels nice.
As for the weight, my Jazzmaster is heavier than my Harvester so I guess it depends on the guitar.

Thanks, Horsey, for reigniting my GAS for a hollow Harvester.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkZnlxMgEPU[/youtube]

^EGC-gas reignited...

skullservant wrote:The Kramer aluminums are entirely different beasts than Beans/EGC's/Obstructures/Bastin etc

Kramers were bolt on aluminum necks with wooden inserts to not make them feel as cold and more like regular guitar necks whereas any of the others listed (other than Veleno and Vacarro) are neck-through aluminum which helps stability.

Both of my EGC's are stable tuning wise. My all aluminum goes a quarter step out of tune when it is not being played, but about 5 minutes into holding it, it's good to go and barely ever needs to be tuned. My wooden-hybrid stays in tune constantly.

Thank you! This is what I was hoping to hear.

I have limited experience with any aluminium instruments, but

I have played two. A Bastin guitar and a Trussart P-bass (I know that's different, but still...) both pretty heavy, but absurdely solid. Punchy attack, great clarity, superb sustain. Also very consistent all around the fretboard

The Bastin blew my mind with the weigh of the chords and the clarity (and sustain) were great - my friend has one (s.n.006) and plays it in open tuning - even with distortion, you can play melodies with the rest of the strings ringing out and it comes out as clear as nothing I've played before

DarkAxel wrote:I have limited experience with any aluminium instruments, but

I have played two. A Bastin guitar and a Trussart P-bass (I know that's different, but still...) both pretty heavy, but absurdely solid. Punchy attack, great clarity, superb sustain. Also very consistent all around the fretboard

The Bastin blew my mind with the weigh of the chords and the clarity (and sustain) were great - my friend has one (s.n.006) and plays it in open tuning - even with distortion, you can play melodies with the rest of the strings ringing out and it comes out as clear as nothing I've played before

Really?!

I should meet that guy! I have half his guitar! (SN 003)

I'd love to try one of these. I feel like I'd need to be sold on the idea of an all aluminum instrument. It sounds like it wouldn't be comfortable but I wouldn't know as I've never tried one! Wonder if there are any dealers. Hmmm...guess I could look. LOL

i bought my EGC three years ago and i dont play any of my other guitars for more than 10 minutes before i go back to the EGC, other than the 10 string and the ultra vi that is. skully nailed it.

Chankgeez wrote:Thanks, Horsey, for reigniting my GAS for a hollow Harvester.

This damn thread is makng me consider a short scale bass somewhere down the line. Especially with a german carve, mmmm.

Anyone here have experience with EGC bass pickups? What are they like?