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Corey Y wrote:Quick question for you guys, just an opinion thing. If you're listening to a band that has distorted bass and no guitar, do you prefer it to sound very layered and have a lot of depth of tones or just be very obviously a single heavy bass tone? I'm playing around with mixing some solo bass stuff, to try out some sonic ideas and see if there's anything I like the direction of before messing around with complicated rig configurations.

Singular tone that's a bit more full range than I'd like if there were guitars.

Saw Eyehategod last night. Man, what a killer show. Great supporting acts and there were even bands playing in the bar area between the main stages sets. Old Iron and Pharaoh were both really good. EHG killed it, which was nice because they last time I saw them they were atrocious. Mike and Jimmy were both goofing on each other pretty much the entire set. Rad night.

LOCOPELAND wrote:Saw Eyehategod last night. Man, what a killer show. Great supporting acts and there were even bands playing in the bar area between the main stages sets. Old Iron and Pharaoh were both really good. EHG killed it, which was nice because they last time I saw them they were atrocious. Mike and Jimmy were both goofing on each other pretty much the entire set. Rad night.

Yeah -- they've been great the past two times I've seen them and that's been in the last year -- post the Self-Titled album.

Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

I think the discussion of is the Sunn really worth it's weight in gold? The prices have been seeing such a steady incline that you have to decide if the price of your Matamp is worth the "asking" price of the Model T and then whether or not you really care about that.

It's so subjective. If you have the opportunity to play it -- maybe play with some of your cabs and pedals then maybe you can make a case for it but tone is so subjective and if you're into your Matamp sound it could be that the Sunn is a bad fit.

Its across the US so no trying before. I love the Matamp tone and am totally happy with it. Just always wanted to try a model t.

I wouldn't make that trade. That's just me though.

you could always probably get another matamp for what you could sell the model t for if you don't like it better. i love model t's and wish i had bought one years ago before i got priced out of the market.

wanna try an amp thats better then a model t, cheaper, and resale will intetest infinitely more buyers? grab a Marshall superbass.

and only ONLY retube amps with nos tubes. these new glass buttplugs are fuckin trash and make vintage amps sound like shit.

Here's a concrete example, though still a pretty subtle one I think, of what I was asking about with solo bass tone. The first is just one bass track, with a little stereo imaging to help it fill up space. The second has the same track doubled, low cut, run through a V30 loaded 4x12 cab impulse and hard panned in stereo to layer the sound and give it some more depth. It's just a really cheap mixing approximation of what I'd try with a dual (or more) rig. No octave shenanigans or anything like that to try to simulate guitars.

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conky wrote:Its across the US so no trying before. I love the Matamp tone and am totally happy with it. Just always wanted to try a model t.

I wouldn't trade. If you just want to try it, it wouldn't be worth trading...wait for one to come up closer to home so you can play it before giving up your amp for it.

Also I'm with whiskey on the superbass too. My band mate has matamp...gt something...and i played it against my superbass...i preferred my superbass...but the matamp was also beautiful!

conky wrote:Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

Punch him in the dick, tell him his band sucks, and mail him a POD.

conky wrote:Trade my Matamp for 1st gen model t with original tubes? Original tubes to means "retube asap" but I've always wanted to try one. I'm trying to trade my Soldano for it but dude ain't budging unless a Matamp. I really wanna keep the GTO but I need to hear it from you guys that I am a dumbass for thinking of trading the Matamp for it.

Don't do it. There's a hype behind the Model T that in some circles is justified but I personally don't see it. The Matamp has a better preamp section (not just a glorified Fender Bassman), the only place where the Sunn might win out is the power amp section. The sunn is 4x6550's running in Ultra Linear, so it can do loud, very very loud.... but that's it IMO, and your band doesn't seem obsessed with loud but more with tone which I think you'll find more of in the Matamp. Also the Sunn is 40 years old, so along with that retube your gonna need a recap and who knows what else in maintenance to make it reliably gigable.

Sell me the Matamp; problem solved right?