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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:20 pm
by Krosis
I have the Digitech Hardwire Delay that has the looper mode. Will give it a try. Thanks!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:23 pm
by odontophobia
I record a lot of shit to my iPhone.
Sometimes I'll reference the recording the next time I sit down. Sometimes I don't reference it until after I play it a few times. Sometimes I find that I changed it accidentally then I can compare and see what I like best.
I also write without plugging into my amp quite frequently. The power of the riff, man. If it sounds good unplugged then I can probably make it sound pretty bad ass later. That's not really a writing standpoint or anything but I know sometimes, based on our gear obsessions, we don't always write riffs without the rig. I like to write without the rig all the time. When I add the rig I can start doing all kinds of weird stuff with different pedals, etc. Sometimes I find that I really like certain riffs clean with lots of verb and delay and other times it gets all the dirt required.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:28 pm
by Barracuda
Krosis wrote:What method do you guys usually use when going about writing a song? I have decided to work on the basics of songwriting so maybe I can actually get something accomplished musically in my lifetime

But it's not like doom is your average 3 chord rock and roll...

I like to hum parts out, which usually helps with coming up with the various parts of a song. I find I get less caught up with keys and chords I am comfortable with on the guitar if I work this way. Don't be afraid to listen to and rip off the song structure from bands you like at first in terms of tempo changes and note choices, haha. Obviously don't just rip the songs verse for verse, but emulating a sound can get the creative juices going.
...or just rip Sabbath riffs and play 'em loud, low, and slow.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:42 am
by The Mad Titan
odontophobia wrote:I record a lot of shit to my iPhone.
Sometimes I'll reference the recording the next time I sit down. Sometimes I don't reference it until after I play it a few times. Sometimes I find that I changed it accidentally then I can compare and see what I like best.
I also write without plugging into my amp quite frequently. The power of the riff, man. If it sounds good unplugged then I can probably make it sound pretty bad ass later. That's not really a writing standpoint or anything but I know sometimes, based on our gear obsessions, we don't always write riffs without the rig. I like to write without the rig all the time. When I add the rig I can start doing all kinds of weird stuff with different pedals, etc. Sometimes I find that I really like certain riffs clean with lots of verb and delay and other times it gets all the dirt required.
If I am seriously shopping for guitars, then I don't even plug in until I find one that feels right unplugged. I expect a certain degree of natural resonance and nice acoustic ring and snap depending on the type of guitar. Once I get one that sounds/feels right unplugged, then I can throw whatever pickups I want in there to highlight the qualities I desire.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:48 am
by Ancient Astronaught
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:00 pm
by AngryGoldfish
Krosis wrote:What method do you guys usually use when going about writing a song? I have decided to work on the basics of songwriting so maybe I can actually get something accomplished musically in my lifetime

But it's not like doom is your average 3 chord rock and roll...

Don't limit yourself to any one style or particular repetition. Find a basic riff you like—and it really can be basic—and just go wild over the top of it. Find a new dynamic that you haven't used before. Listen to YOB's In Our Blood (and that whole album) for inspiration on dynamics and pacing. Don't set any preconceived limits or barriers. And ultimately, if it sucks, either completely turn it on its head, or drop that shit.
odontophobia wrote:I record a lot of shit to my iPhone.
Sometimes I'll reference the recording the next time I sit down. Sometimes I don't reference it until after I play it a few times. Sometimes I find that I changed it accidentally then I can compare and see what I like best.
I also write without plugging into my amp quite frequently. The power of the riff, man. If it sounds good unplugged then I can probably make it sound pretty bad ass later. That's not really a writing standpoint or anything but I know sometimes, based on our gear obsessions, we don't always write riffs without the rig. I like to write without the rig all the time. When I add the rig I can start doing all kinds of weird stuff with different pedals, etc. Sometimes I find that I really like certain riffs clean with lots of verb and delay and other times it gets all the dirt required.
This. Play unplugged to find new ways of voicing chords and riffs. Also, try using a software program like GuitarPro. I use it to write all the time as it allows me to hear back an entire band without needing an entire band.
The Mad Titan wrote:odontophobia wrote:I record a lot of shit to my iPhone.
Sometimes I'll reference the recording the next time I sit down. Sometimes I don't reference it until after I play it a few times. Sometimes I find that I changed it accidentally then I can compare and see what I like best.
I also write without plugging into my amp quite frequently. The power of the riff, man. If it sounds good unplugged then I can probably make it sound pretty bad ass later. That's not really a writing standpoint or anything but I know sometimes, based on our gear obsessions, we don't always write riffs without the rig. I like to write without the rig all the time. When I add the rig I can start doing all kinds of weird stuff with different pedals, etc. Sometimes I find that I really like certain riffs clean with lots of verb and delay and other times it gets all the dirt required.
If I am seriously shopping for guitars, then I don't even plug in until I find one that feels right unplugged. I expect a certain degree of natural resonance and nice acoustic ring and snap depending on the type of guitar. Once I get one that sounds/feels right unplugged, then I can throw whatever pickups I want in there to highlight the qualities I desire.
Also this.
I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but the reason why I avoid a lot of cheap guitars, even if they have upgraded hardware in them, is because they don't 'snap'. I've tried so many cheap Gibson guitars that are nothing more than two pieces of dead wood glued together with metal and magnets screwed on top. They're pieces of shit. But then I've played cheap MIM Fenders that awed me with their vocal qualities. In general, the clearer and louder the guitar sounds acoustically, the more expensive you'll find it is (think Suhr, Tom Anderson, Gretsch). But every now and again you'll find an affordable gem that you just can't let go of. Those will usually sing the loudest when plugged in, and for me, that's where the creativity stems from. You can have loud amps, but if your guitar isn't loud...
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 1:29 pm
by new05002
Slowly processing my own amp build
Been sitting on this iron for so long, but finally getting a chassis design out so I can put it together

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:15 pm
by D.o.S.
Iron, Man.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:23 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
new05002 wrote:Slowly processing my own amp build
Been sitting on this iron for so long, but finally getting a chassis design out so I can put it together

FINALLY!!!!

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:29 pm
by new05002
Shit has been sitting so long its getting rust on the lams (totally fine)
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:37 pm
by samzadgan
new05002 wrote:Slowly processing my own amp build
Been sitting on this iron for so long, but finally getting a chassis design out so I can put it together

You throwing those mercury's into a jet city ????

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:54 pm
by D.o.S.
obvs not -- he's posting gut shots, isn't he?
apropos of great riffs, did you guys know Black Sabbath were pretty rad?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4zlAd_eXjM[/youtube]
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:12 pm
by new05002
You guys are funny.
Imagine a full size matamp panel but instead of plastic with screening it is an etched aluminum panel

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:27 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:21 pm
by AxAxSxS
new05002 wrote:You guys are funny.
Imagine a full size matamp panel but instead of plastic with screening it is an etched aluminum panel

Fuck yeah man. My Simms had no plate on it when I got it and I think one of the cool things about those was the giant fucking logo plate. Lao Wiz was kind enough to etch and paint one for me. I Lurves it.

Might be cool to add some relief to the metal like verellen did with the falcon? I mean not a direct star wars shape like he did, but it's cool to be able to peek inside the amp and see the tubes and all. Might aid ventilation as well.