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Best wishes Pope. Hope it all works out for the best dude. Fuck our government for Americanizing our healthcare system.

Good vibes your way Pope.

Damn pope. Maybe nick can just solder you up a bionic eye?

Ditch the eye, get a patch. Whatever you lose in depth perception, you'll gain several times over in style.

Timm Grimm wrote:Definitely flip and make better use of your space and cash.

Iommic Pope wrote:And T: I'm with Timm, don't go ape for extra features you aren't gonna use. I'd say go the orbiter over the sibling, but that's personal preference. Don't forget wildebelor has a bad stone that sounds pretty tasty to (I'd link to it but I'm on my phone and that's a headache).

Personally I'm tossing up whether or not to ditch my Trinity in favour of an Afterneath. I only use it for the church and ethereal settings, which I love the shit out of, but I could not give a fuck about verbs that don't sound like someone stuck a black hole in a cave.
I should probably allocate some funds to picking up a noise gate at some point as well....but that's like boring...and necessary.

I may pick up an Orbiter and see if it can best the Whetstone, which means I won't need to try a Sibling. Mostly I just want my phase to sound like this but slower:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viatji__YX8[/youtube]

So if the Orbiter can do that, I'm pretty sold.

As far as the Trinity, lots of people love them and put them to good use. I am not one of those people. I never really liked the one I had.

fever606 wrote:Trey, I flipped a Musket for the SS Twosome because rare and I wanted to check out the Fix'd. I had a similar reaction to the FF (it's awesome, just not for me) and eventually sold the Twosome (to fund another Muff, incidentally). I have a couple pedals I keep primarily for the looks ("Off the Air" Reverberator, for instance, which in addition to being a great reverb also gets bonus points because I work in TV) but pretty much everything else I have because it does a thing I need done as well as possible.

So, you know... anecdotes...

I've heard a lot of good tones from the Fix'd, but have never found ones that really work for me. Off the Air berator is snazz as fuck, plus it sounds hella good. I've always been a 'collector' so I attach to things very quickly and have difficulty letting them go. The good part about this (if I do it correctly) is that I may have enough to pick up some pedals and a MIJ Les Paul if I sell this Tele I never play...

van_muddlestein wrote: GOT A JOB TODAY AT AN AMP REPAIR SHOP! WAHOOOOOOOO!!!

Also, dude....get a musket and a grand orbiter(the grand orbiter fucking owns) and then put the extra cash towards something else fun.

Congrats on the new job! Noted on the Oribter suggestion. Dolf had one when you guys came through Wilmington - that's the only time I've heard one in person. Sounded good. I mean, my ears were ringing, but it sounded good

samzadgan wrote:mate...i would say get stuff that you are going to use. If you like the custom mojo of those pedals, keep them and buy other pedals to replace them on your board...but on the phaser side of things, i would recomend the Grand Orbiter over the Sibling...i've had both and the GO is a better phaser. The Sibling was a bit too subtle for me...plus with the GO it has a Vibrato setting too.

Yeah. I could see Vibrato being more useful than Ring Mod.

Iommic Pope wrote:Depths for swirly soundy vibey goodness?

I found out this arvo I'm gonna need eye surgery, pronto.
It's a pretty brutal procedure.
I may also have to sell pretty much all my gear.
So, look forward to some BST spam from me soon.

I didn't get on with mine very well. Didn't get as deep as I would like (HA!) and almost had a square wave thing going on. It's the only vibe I've ever played, so I don't know if my expectations were off, or I just didn't like the pedal. Sounded great on faster settings, but I like my swirly mod to be slooooooooow.

Mojo about your eye. Hope it goes well

For a killer phaser, check out the Maxon PH 350. I have it and LOVE it. Favorite phaser evar.

pope, sorry to hear about your eye. hopefully they can fix you up and everything will come out okay.

t-rey, as far as getting rid of the twosome, i'd absolutely do that. kind of a waste if you're not using the whole thing and you could get something you will use. i totally hated the fixed fuzz that i tried out. i would never use it. i liked my musket and it's a good pedal, but honestly, if you're selling that pedal you'd do yourself a favor to try out one of the other super muffs out there. things along the same lines that i liked more would include the hoof fuzz and the supercollider. i'm surprised not to see the hoof getting more respect. everyone loves eqd and that is one of my favorite modern takes on the muff.

as far as phasers, i can't tell you much cause i don't use a phaser, but the yob sound is a whirlwind phase 90 if that's what you're after. don't know if any of that other stuff is phase 90 based, i would assume so, but just thought i'd throw that out there.

IP, thoughts are with you. Hope your surgery goes well.

I am pretty sure the Grand Orbiter is based on the Ross Phaser. The Whetstone is Small Stone based. No clue on the Sibling. At all.

pelliott wrote:The Whetstone is Small Stone based. No clue on the Sibling. At all.

The Sibling is, as the name suggests, little baby to the Whetstone... from BE's product description:

Blackout Effectors wrote:Little sister to the Whetstone Phaser, using the same Operational Transconductance Amplifier (OTA) to create a modulated signal. The Sibling is a stripped down version...

t-rey wrote:

van_muddlestein wrote: GOT A JOB TODAY AT AN AMP REPAIR SHOP! WAHOOOOOOOO!!!

Also, dude....get a musket and a grand orbiter(the grand orbiter fucking owns) and then put the extra cash towards something else fun.

Congrats on the new job! Noted on the Oribter suggestion. Dolf had one when you guys came through Wilmington - that's the only time I've heard one in person. Sounded good. I mean, my ears were ringing, but it sounded good

Yeah dude, easily my favorite Phaser I've ever messed with. It can get ridiculous slow and ridiculous fast, and basically it's easy to have multiple settings with the 2 rate switch thing. It's pretty solid.

Corey Y wrote:Ditch the eye, get a patch. Whatever you lose in depth perception, you'll gain several times over in style.

plus pirate style night vision

Ouch Pope, that's rough. Hope it goes well. At least all this material shit can be replaced. Eyes are a little harder to come by, and I can't think of anyone who'd want vintage or used peepers.

fever606 wrote:

pelliott wrote:The Whetstone is Small Stone based. No clue on the Sibling. At all.

The Sibling is, as the name suggests, little baby to the Whetstone... from BE's product description:

Blackout Effectors wrote:Little sister to the Whetstone Phaser, using the same Operational Transconductance Amplifier (OTA) to create a modulated signal. The Sibling is a stripped down version...

Funny, I was just looking at the Sibling and Whetstone, amongst other phasers. I was on the verge of picking up the one in BST, but wasn't sure if the voicing was for me, given the lack of a resonance/feedback knob. I don't know if they're really that similar to the Small Stones, but I do know that both share the use of OTA for creating their phasing, probably pretty similar actually (how many ways can you wire up a phaser?). Between demos, I preferred the Small Stone for some reason. Just finished a toneprint for my TC reverb. Subtle vibrato is really cool! Makes me wish for a standalone vibrato... That said, if I replaced my PM-7 with a "better" phaser, I'd probably go for the Grand Orbiter, if only for the vibrato switch. Although, phaser into vibrato sounds really fucking nuts from what I've just heard.

Now to see if I'll actually use this toneprint for something!

fever606 wrote:

pelliott wrote:The Whetstone is Small Stone based. No clue on the Sibling. At all.

The Sibling is, as the name suggests, little baby to the Whetstone... from BE's product description:

Blackout Effectors wrote:Little sister to the Whetstone Phaser, using the same Operational Transconductance Amplifier (OTA) to create a modulated signal. The Sibling is a stripped down version...

That makes way too much sense. Thanks.

i just realized what i wrote up there
wow
brilliant

Sending some Doom love out to you pope. Hope you can keep your gear.

On the flipped....

I played out of a Fender Quad Reverb last night with my Coven. I didn't fuck around with settings all that much. It belongs to a buddy of mine. I could really get into the tone of it clean but didn't have time to really dial it with my dirt. It did get really farty and buzzy at times but I think it would really benefit from a speaker swap. My buddy bought it, recently retubed, for $600 so it's not like it was a bad deal -- it sounds good, probably great for some of the loud post hardcore type shit he is doing. Did not work as well with the "heavy music for gear nerds and dungeons and dragons enthusiasts" that I've been writing.

That being said... found out I'll probably be getting a bonus coming up here so I think I'm looking for a head to compliment my RedBear MK60. I'm not sure really where I want to be with that though. Definitely need something loud, clean, and pedal friendly. I feel like I'm going to be buying a lot of amps and returning them just in order to try them out.

At my disposal to try I have a 5150, an Orange Rockerverb 50 and a Marshall JCM 2000 Dual Super Lead (50w). Not really sure that any of those are gonna do it for me but who knows. Anything I should be on the lookout for? New or old.