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kevinhifi wrote:

Moustache_Bash wrote:

kevinhifi wrote:

Moustache_Bash wrote:So, Strat lovers....

Can you really tell a difference between position 2 and 4?

On mine, they are drastically different. Have you found that they sound the same?

Huh, yeah. You're making me feel stupid now. I'm going to have to try some more strats.


Another thing I always wondered, why didn't more old school country dudes play strats? They got a pretty decent sound for it, plus you can kind of do the lapsteel thing with the trem.

No need to feel stupid. It probably has a lot to do with the amp and speaker as far as how different 2 and 4 are. As for the country question, it's likely the image associated with the Strat more than anything - the whole rock/blues wanker thing.

2/4 on mine are completely different fwiw.

Moustache_Bash wrote:Another thing I always wondered, why didn't more old school country dudes play strats? They got a pretty decent sound for it, plus you can kind of do the lapsteel thing with the trem.

a number of them did, if you look at old TV/film clips and photos. Luther Perkins notably played a Strat with Johnny Cash. i find the thinner tone of a Strat preferable to a Tele for playing country, actually.

dubkitty wrote:

Moustache_Bash wrote:Another thing I always wondered, why didn't more old school country dudes play strats? They got a pretty decent sound for it, plus you can kind of do the lapsteel thing with the trem.

a number of them did, if you look at old TV/film clips and photos. Luther Perkins notably played a Strat with Johnny Cash. i find the thinner tone of a Strat preferable to a Tele for playing country, actually.

Eldon Shamblin, Bob WIlls' longtime guitarist, was a notable Strat player, but that's not really Country. It's Western Swing.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSZfUnCK5qk[/youtube]

Bill Carson and Thumbs Carllile were a couple other Country Strat players. Here's Thumbs:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHBdUuYKM6I[/youtube]

Damn! That dude is shredding that Strat! That whole band is on fire!

kosta wrote:Damn! That dude is shredding that Strat! That whole band is on fire!

and the whole musical part of the clip lasts 1:36! it astounds me how artists of the 50s and early 60s packed so much into such short periods of time...IIRC one of the Beatles' first singles was less than two minutes long, and if you look at the track times on Grand Ole Opry casts or the Hank Williams transcriptions they're often under two minutes. this drives me batshit because i can't write a song less than five minutes long to save my life.

Eldon was the other prominent early Strat player in country music (and we can split hairs all we want, but if, like Bob Wills, if you have a hit with "Take Me Back To Tulsa," you're country) i was trying to remember, but i couldn't dig the info out of my memory.

Yeah, concision is a lost art.

Most of those Country & Western (love those all encompassing terms) players were great musicians. I love musical genres where the players have "jazz chops" and the rhythmic conception is "ethnic" or something or however you wanna describe it. Western Swing is essentially Jazz. Jazz (especially before BeBop) was Popular music.

Yes, musicianship was really important until a few certain movements in pop music (movements that I absolutely love for the record) made it OK to be so-so. I love those old recordings where everyone is putting in everything they got for those few seconds and then laying back perfectly and becoming part of the fantastic rhythm section.

Enough rhetoric. Let's get back to the porn!!

Speaking of the above, always enjoyed this record:

(Sorry for the thread hijack, Zounds.)

I'm not always a fan of Newgrass or other jazzy fusions. I usually prefer the unadulterated form.

This one's similar in structure to a lot of those old American Country tunes in terms of short successive solos:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbcvB4dI9HA[/youtube]

the bridge pickup has since been replaced with a white, stock humbucker. its a 2007 american standard fat strat. love her to death.

this is my number 2 Strat. i built it myself from Fender parts with the exception of the mini-Grover tuners with pearl Schaller knobs. the neck is a Koa Stratocaster birdseye maple neck with a buffed rosewood board and abalone dots. the body is an Electron Blue MIM alder Standard Strat. it has the Fender 1969 Custom Shop PUs signed by Abigail Ybarra and a ToneStyler in the second tone spot, which is wired to control the middle and lead PUs; the bass PU has a regular Fender tone pot. with the pickups and the ToneStyler this guitar will do just about anything you'd want a Strat with single-coils to do, from juicy 80s Knopfler tones and clanging post-punk to brittle 50s country leads.

Chankgeez wrote:(Sorry for the thread hijack, Zounds.)
I'm not always a fan of Newgrass or other jazzy fusions. I usually prefer the unadulterated form.

Ooooh yeah. I think you might be right actually... Just re-listened to some of that stuff. Much prefer the OG stuff now. I think I discovered that Hillbilly Jazz record before I knew about the roots... Dig that Caribbean cut you posted!

Sorry from me too Zounds! Back to the Strats!

Has anyone played a Dillion guitar?

The wilkinson tremolo attracts me, but buying site unseen kinda scares me. Oh, and it costs $450. Same as a MIM

^^^ That thing looks backwards

I've never seen a Dillon, in person or online. I really like the color.