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GardenoftheDead wrote:

Vuvuzela wrote:does any one know what jeff's bass tone was achieved with on snakes for the divine? that bass sound is fucking ridiculous.
i'd imagine it was something like a 10-band EQ, a pharaoh and maybe a comp of some kind into an SVT?

One clean amp, one amp with a Boss DS-1 for distortion if I recall. Read it in an interview somewhere I can't find anymore.

I want to say he was using a Skunkworks SVT, but that's based on nothing beyond a flicker of memory.

I've been really into the production on Kate Bush's "Hounds of Love." I want to make massive, hard-gated drum reverb cool again.

i've grown tired of how slick Andy Sneaps's albums sound. A lot of modern metal is all done with electronic drums and DI'd guitars and bass and while the music is really cool, hearing the same kind of sterile production over and over again makes me pretty sad.
i love a lot of Sneap's work, but why can't more bands spend the time recording a record with real drums and nailing down tones before they get into a studio?

in other news, i love the sound of the hives' record "Veni Vidi Vicious" so gritty, and still sounds huge.

Vuvuzela wrote:i've grown tired of how slick Andy Sneaps's albums sound. A lot of modern metal is all done with electronic drums and DI'd guitars and bass

I hear you there dude. The only thing DI'd guitar and bass is good for is getting a good dry signal to be reamped later to get that perfect pedals and miced amp mix. But to use them exclusively just sucks arse. And I would never use electronic drums. Real drums miced sound so much nicer in the mix.

KaosCill8r wrote:

Vuvuzela wrote:i've grown tired of how slick Andy Sneaps's albums sound. A lot of modern metal is all done with electronic drums and DI'd guitars and bass

I hear you there dude. The only thing DI'd guitar and bass is good for is getting a good dry signal to be reamped later to get that perfect pedals and miced amp mix. But to use them exclusively just sucks arse. And I would never use electronic drums. Real drums miced sound so much nicer in the mix.

if you spend the time on mic'ing the kit, using decent mics and get the kit in a good room it all pays off. i understand using electronic kits for bands like beneath the massacre or any other "tech-metal" band. just because there's no way any drummer is hitting hard enough to make a kit sound good for that style of music.

Vuvuzela wrote:

KaosCill8r wrote:

Vuvuzela wrote:i've grown tired of how slick Andy Sneaps's albums sound. A lot of modern metal is all done with electronic drums and DI'd guitars and bass

I hear you there dude. The only thing DI'd guitar and bass is good for is getting a good dry signal to be reamped later to get that perfect pedals and miced amp mix. But to use them exclusively just sucks arse. And I would never use electronic drums. Real drums miced sound so much nicer in the mix.

if you spend the time on mic'ing the kit, using decent mics and get the kit in a good room it all pays off. i understand using electronic kits for bands like beneath the massacre or any other "tech-metal" band. just because there's no way any drummer is hitting hard enough to make a kit sound good for that style of music.

So true. I find the hardest thing to mic up and get right are drums, but it is so rewarding when you get it right. I seldom do but I still try. I would much rather get miced drums wrong than resort to electronic.

Electronic drums certainly have their applications.
They can be engineered and arranged to great effect, sounding similar to or nothing like an acoustic kit/space. And late at night, with babies sleeping in the same room.
They wont out-acoustic-drum an acoustic drumkit, but as vuvuzela illustrated w/tech metal...I wouldn't want to attempt playing the AMEN BROTHER break for 5+ minutes without a sampler, live or in studio.
I've got to tip my hat to the drummers in NES coverbands
Also, a well-tuned drumkit in a great space, miked in a flattering way is a thing of beauty...but not without a good drummer behind it

Lots of good albums in this thread.

I will add Clipse - Lord Willin (Produced by The Neptunes)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWQxThfB70[/youtube]

rustywire wrote:Electronic drums certainly have their applications.
They can be engineered and arranged to great effect, sounding similar to or nothing like an acoustic kit/space. And late at night, with babies sleeping in the same room.
They wont out-acoustic-drum an acoustic drumkit, but as vuvuzela illustrated w/tech metal...I wouldn't want to attempt playing the AMEN BROTHER break for 5+ minutes without a sampler, live or in studio.
I've got to tip my hat to the drummers in NES coverbands
Also, a well-tuned drumkit in a great space, miked in a flattering way is a thing of beauty...but not without a good drummer behind it

you should check out the band Giant Step. Their record "What would the neighbors say?" has some of the best damn drum sounds i've ever heard.
recorded at the studio I work at, by my boss. he just "gets" how drums should sounds.

built to spill - ultimate alternative wavers

brand new - the devil and god are raging inside me

No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom
Lady Gaga - Born This Way
Protomen - Protomen
Antlers - Hospice
Tool - 10,000 Days
Dream Theater - Scenes From a Memory
Prize Fighter Inferno - My Brother's Blood Machine


yeah, some tacky mixes in there and I know a lot of it is arrangement, but there's so many mixing tricks from each of those that I keep meaning to use.

Surfer Rosa by The Pixies, produced by Steve Albini.
Axis Bold As Love by Jimi Hendrix, produced by Eddie Kramer.
Blood Sugar Sex Magic by The Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Produced by Rick Rubin.
Siamese Dream by The Smashing Pumpkins, Produced by Butch Vig & Billy Corgan.
Bleach by Nirvana, Produced by Jack Endino.

The_Active_Conundrum wrote:No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom
Lady Gaga - Born This Way
Protomen - Protomen
Antlers - Hospice
Tool - 10,000 Days
Dream Theater - Scenes From a Memory
Prize Fighter Inferno - My Brother's Blood Machine


yeah, some tacky mixes in there and I know a lot of it is arrangement, but there's so many mixing tricks from each of those that I keep meaning to use.

was going to mention that record. it doesn't matter what genre of you music you identify with mainly, the fact that she's so weird, and writes a lot of her weird ideas into her music and has a great stable of engineers and producers to work with, this record came out really great. no shame, it's a great a record and sounds awesome.