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I wish Arcades didn't do the thing where it forgets your settings when you power cycle.

That is the entire reason I sold mine

preorders have opened for this matey:
https://shop.dirtywave.com/products/m8- ... 6828609701

Dandolin wrote:preorders have opened for this matey:
https://shop.dirtywave.com/products/m8- ... 6828609701

Why did it had to drop right after my rent was due. I'd been stalking this for so long, it killed my Polyend tracker gas.

oldangelmidnight wrote:I wish Arcades didn't do the thing where it forgets your settings when you power cycle.

For whatever reason that doesn't bother me so much. Sometimes I wish it would remember the wet/dry mix at least, but then I switch to a different program and need to change the wet/dry mix anyway.

The new Generation Loss sold out in a minute, I guess. And some dealers are taking the flipping into their own hands, selling it new for $500. I feel bad that Cooper FX's Instagram post about the release was pretty much "Hey everyone, I'm sorry I put out a pedal."

Seems like a preorder list would be the best way to not have people get mad about one minute sellouts (when you know that's what's going to happen). From that Analogman pedal people wait years for to Cirklons, people seem to be pretty chill when they get to put their name on an orderly list.

jirodreamsofdank wrote:Seems like a preorder list would be the best way to not have people get mad about one minute sellouts (when you know that's what's going to happen). From that Analogman pedal people wait years for to Cirklons, people seem to be pretty chill when they get to put their name on an orderly list.

Lists are a logistical nightmare. They take a massive amount of time to deal with because you have to track people down to get payment when you're ready to ship which can take days of work just sitting at a computer sending emails. You end up with a bunch of people no-showing for their slot after you give them 24 hours or whatever to pay. If you take deposits you end up with a ton of people wanting refunds at some point or moving so their address is wrong and they dont let you know. It also puts a lot more pressure on the builder if they have peoples money already when they might not deliver a pedal for months or a year depending on how many people preorder. Lists also balloon up to years of wait really quickly because tons of people throw their name in the hat and then lose interest a month later. The big drop most builders use works because they can just build pedals and then sell them in a cycle without all the administrative mess of trying to maintain an orderly queue. Its much better for the builder to do less admin stuff and more pedal building when possible.

Tall Walls wrote:The new Generation Loss sold out in a minute, I guess. And some dealers are taking the flipping into their own hands, selling it new for $500. I feel bad that Cooper FX's Instagram post about the release was pretty much "Hey everyone, I'm sorry I put out a pedal."

One bummer after another, which is just a bummer. I did finally remove Cooper FX from my reverb feed for my own sake, since any nary appear for less than $499 and go all the way up to $1500 sometimes. I'll probably do the same thing with the Land Devices tag, as their stuff has been selling for astronomical prices and I just can't participate in even being a witness to it whatever that whole cycle of hype does anymore.

jirodreamsofdank wrote:Cirklons

I feel like my name is on so many lists that being on another one for a shot at a $2000 sequencer seems pretty alright, but I could also make myself Squarp Pyramid twice for them bones straight up, let alone engineer a crypto machine that generates the income for at least one of those choices by the time my number is called (or, at the very least, exactly one delicious pizza, delivered).

whoismarykelly wrote:

jirodreamsofdank wrote:Seems like a preorder list would be the best way to not have people get mad about one minute sellouts (when you know that's what's going to happen). From that Analogman pedal people wait years for to Cirklons, people seem to be pretty chill when they get to put their name on an orderly list.

Lists are a logistical nightmare. They take a massive amount of time to deal with because you have to track people down to get payment when you're ready to ship which can take days of work just sitting at a computer sending emails. You end up with a bunch of people no-showing for their slot after you give them 24 hours or whatever to pay. If you take deposits you end up with a ton of people wanting refunds at some point or moving so their address is wrong and they dont let you know. It also puts a lot more pressure on the builder if they have peoples money already when they might not deliver a pedal for months or a year depending on how many people preorder. Lists also balloon up to years of wait really quickly because tons of people throw their name in the hat and then lose interest a month later. The big drop most builders use works because they can just build pedals and then sell them in a cycle without all the administrative mess of trying to maintain an orderly queue. Its much better for the builder to do less admin stuff and more pedal building when possible.

Fair (though I'd think something as in-demand as a Generation Loss assuages a lot of that - you're never going to not sell through... unless the scarcity is the primary reason people buy coughcough).

If you go with the random drop method, though, the builder shouldn't play shocked at selling out/scalpers/people being mad. Live by hypebeast marketing, die by hypebeast marketing.

Yeah, but this time around, it was a handful of dealers doing the scalping straight out the gate. That is kind of shocking, but then again, maybe it's not

that is a bit much.

i have to say that to the extent that people are willing to swallow these kinds of sharp practices, they/you are only providing positive reinforcement for gougers and making this kind of shit acceptable. don't come crying to me when medium-complex E-H boxes go up to $350+.

to me, some of this phenomenon has crossed over from questionable to flat-out morally wrong. guess i'm not a capitalist.

coupleonapkins wrote: I'll probably do the same thing with the Land Devices tag, as their stuff has been selling for astronomical prices

Wow, could have gotten a good chunk for my HP-2 (that I didn't really care for, honestly).

dubkitty wrote:to me, some of this phenomenon has crossed over from questionable to flat-out morally wrong. guess i'm not a capitalist.

Same. I am not an economist but it seems these resellers and sketchy dealers are inflating the price at retail too, which is tricky since that obviously benefits the builders we appreciate. Their (artificial) demand means builders can keep running profitable small batches without pressure to scale up and reduce costs. No downward pressure at all when every reverb listing is higher than your MSRP and it doesn’t seem like prospective buyers who can’t click fast enough when you release new ones are getting discouraged. That’s good for innovative small builders who effectively harness the hype and speculation and in the long run good if you like to see emerging builders entering the market and making quirky niche effects. Cooper FX seemed to be scaling up production though with the Outward v2 and Arcades releases (and hopefully the Gen Loss v2) and I’m really curious to see how that works out for them in the long run. Hopefully well. From an outside perspective it really feels like your ideal end goal as a business has to be to become like, Boss/EHX just saturating the market or Analogman with a three year waiting list and a license to print money lol. Idk if someone has better insight from an actual builder’s perspective I would love to hear it. Also interested in any thoughts regarding the speculative pedal bubble. I’m afraid some good people are going to get wiped out if or when it pops.

On a related note, I thought it was hilarious when CBA made another batch of their Fuzz Factory. Speculators got caught holding the bag a bit. Still able to make their money back for the most part but you wouldn’t know it from some of the angry comments on Instagram and TGP. Imagine if they released the CBA Gen Loss again. CBA would probably have to upgrade security at their shop, no joke. Like just play your pedals and stop with the rent seeking behavior and then you don’t have to get mad when a pedal company releases more of their pedals??? Anyway I like to imagine a world where the same thing happens to the housing stock.