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Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:29 pm
by Zork
dubkitty wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:33 am i’ll have to investigate the DC Filter. where would it go in a signal chain?
The pop comes from the LED that draws a lot of current from the circuit to light up. The Lehle DC Filter will not solve the problem as it only filters out DC current that leaks in the audio path. I built a few Lehle DC Filters (it's a very simple circuit) and I haven't found a useful application for them yet. They won't either help with popping LEDs nor with bad power filtering in noisy old-school fuzz pedals.

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:50 pm
by dubkitty
glad i saw that before i ordered one.

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:47 am
by Zork
Do you have a multimeter? The manual of the DC Filter says, if you have more than 0,1V current in your audiopath, the device will help. You simply measure between tip and ring of your audio cables. I would measure on different points around the popping pedal. If you can measure DC current, the Lehle filter could help. For placement, it depends where the current comes from. I mean, it could be possible that the DC Filter solves your problem, but it's very possible that it won't. What was the popping pedal again?

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:51 am
by Zork
So, I deleted the "snake oil" comment as it was a bit too harsh. I had a beer too much yesterday. If you search forum posts regarding the DC Filter you will find just as many success stories as you'll find statements that it didn't do anything at all. I can say that I tried it in a few different scenarios and in all cases I had to address the problem with something else because it had no effect. :idk:

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:31 am
by UglyCasanova
Ghost Hip wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:44 pmImage
This board is such a huge vibe and should also be featured on this page.

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:51 am
by dubkitty
What was the popping pedal again?
there are several. it's worst on the FEB--the MIME reverb in particular makes huge POPs when turned on/off--but also problematic on the main board. i do indeed have a multimeter, and will try that when i get home.
I can say that I tried it in a few different scenarios and in all cases I had to address the problem with something else because it had no effect.
so what else did you do that worked?

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:57 am
by alexsga
UglyCasanova wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 6:31 am
Ghost Hip wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:44 pmImage
This board is such a huge vibe and should also be featured on this page.
yeah this is sick :rock:

i remember a board like this and you had a PM7? what replaced that?

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:14 am
by dubkitty
mad respect for the clean layout.

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:48 am
by dubkitty
i guess for now i'll start running the volume pedal between the board(s) and the loopers/amp. that's ass backwards to how i normally operate, but it could settle the problem for now.

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:56 pm
by Zork
dubkitty wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:51 am so what else did you do that worked?
I had noise and pops with stuff like old EHX, vintage Fuzzes and DIY pedals. Isolated and filtered quality power supplies helped in a few cases but I see you are covered in this regard. I modded a few with a little circuit on stripboard that combines a little RC low pass filter in the power line and a little delay circuit with an elko for the LED. I have a drawing of the whole circuit and layout in my practice space and can post it later this week. Resources are here and here. If you're handy with a soldering iron it's a quick fix, but I wouldn't necessarily put these in expensive boutique pedals. Also, oddly enough, some pedals "don't like each other" and sometimes it helps to change order, put buffered pedals in between true bypass pedals and stuff like this. But this is really only doable if you have only a few pedals on your board.

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 1:05 pm
by Zork
Ghost Hip wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 1:44 pm
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Trying Bifet Boost as a beginning of chain pickup booster/tamer since my Ovation Preacher is low gain as hell and my Fender guitars are notttt..
tell me more about that Bifet Boost. I'm using an MXR 6-band EQ for solo boost because I want more of a mids/treble boost than my LPB-1 does. But the sliders with no overall level on the MXR are too finicky. I was looking into the Bifet Boost but didn't completely understand the function of the tone knob. Does it cut bass and boost treble when turned clockwise from center? Or is it more like a shelving EQ?

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:01 pm
by Ghost Hip
The Bifet could be a good option. It holds true to "electric guitar is a midrange instrument, lets not ruin that." Tone knob sweep starts super dark, treble rolled all the way off. More upper mids and trebles come through as you turn it up. 1 o clock and higher the low end does begin to roll off, but with enough lower mids still in tact to keep some body for chords. Another notable result of turning the tone knob up is the treble frequencies start clipping the gain stage with your pick attack to add some bite to the beginning of notes/chords.

I have to praise the buffer on/off. It is fun to use with fuzz pedals to brighten them up and bring in chord clarity.
dubkitty wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:14 am mad respect for the clean layout.
This means something because I hated rotating my Shallow Water to horizontal position due to not having long enough patch cable to reach the Evil Filter. :grumpy: :lol:
alexsga wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:57 am i remember a board like this and you had a PM7? what replaced that?
Still use the PM7! Practically the Boss BF-2 is the reason PM7 gets left off my boards. It's set low resonance/"I don't need a chorus pedal, you need a chorus pedal!" and for many songs in my last band it was an always on pedal. Unfortunately the PM7's buffer kills my Super tri-fuzz oscillation, and when playing spaces with bad electric, it gives an atrociously annoying loud 60 cycle hum. :cry: Lantern Manufacturing Marigold or MAE Neck Brace are in my sights for gig friendly phasing though. :snax:
dubkitty wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 2:16 pm
my Ovation Preacher is low gain as hell and my Fender guitars are notttt.
interesting...i played in a band with a guy who played a Preacher and it seemed about comparable to a regular Strat output-wise.
Ah yes, all my Fender guitars have hot pickups. J Mascis Squier, Troy Van Leeuwen Jazzy has SD Hot for Jazzmaster, and Tele/Strat have Lace Sensors. Silver Lace Sensor feels the closest in output. It is a drastic enough difference that I have to turn gain up on my Dude Incredible preamp about 4-5 notches to make up for low output of the Preacher. I like the low output personally, I find it's easier to manipulate feedback harmonics. The bridge pickup is microphonic too so there's probably something off under the hood, but the happy accidents that happen are so worth it I haven't dug into it. Had a song that started with a second guitar by itself and the bridge pickup would pick it up and Count to Five would spit it out like a call and response. Very fun.
Gone Fission wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 3:46 pm How's the Space Bender? I remember noticing it when it came out but I seem to remember that it might have been cool in ways that defy ready explanation. (And now I'm making that your problem . . . )
It's made its way on every pedalboard since I got it. The most harmonically rich modulation/echo I've played through. Part of DBA's description says "pull your sound waves to craft glassy bell resonances" and that's my favorite part. All hail the delay array. Picking chords through it into my Sunn Solarus combo when I first received it was a magical experience. It pulls out harmonic overtones I wouldn't hear otherwise. You can get these really fluttery modulation speeds at longer delay times that call back to the dreamy chorus/flange/tremolo textures on Pumpkins' Gish record all wrapped up in one pedal stomp. I'm sure the boosted output level (adjusted by internal trim) contributes to that harmonic beauty by overdriving gain stages after it too. Anywho, lots of resonant comb filter sounds, APTBS spaceship sounds, and traditional echo/chorus available as well. It's the kind of pedal you can just sit with by itself with your favorite guitar/amp and get lost in the sauce. No regrets!

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:09 pm
by cantremember
Here is what I've been rocking for a few months now. I don't know how to change the size of the photo and it looks like I need a new way of posting photos as the site I use isn't the safest anymore. Any tips on what site you guys use to host images so they can be posted here would be great.

Anyway, I've been swapping the DC-2w out with a Ce-2w every so often but right now it's the DC-2w. I've been having issues with volume dipping on my Fx loop so I'm running everything out front. Part of the reason I was going back and forth between the 2 was the noise the ce-2w would give off if I had it in the loop. Idk,I think its a power thing. Anyway here's my board.

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Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:15 pm
by Ghost Hip
Damn that'd be a fun board to explore sounds with. Expression inputs on PS-5s both equipped is serious bizness. :cool:

Accidentally had an output switched to 18V and fried my Space bender when powering on my board. :cry: DBA repair service still welcoming as ever though. I already knew I was going to rearrange the chain anyways. :lol:

Re: Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2024 8:05 pm
by Gone Fission
Make me miss my PS-5, why don't you? (It stayed in the family, at least.) That one was really dialed in and kind of got overlooked in the Mode 7 mania.