After this's all over, I hope the U.S. gov't bills Trump for the damage he's done to our reputation

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BitchPudding wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:23 pmAt least I can keep trying to sedate myself. A coma would be better than living like this.
Your wife and kids need you to be present with them for whatever is to come. Don't numb yourself to the world so much that you can't feel your loved ones. I'm not saying you are, I just hope you aren't.
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dubkitty wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:56 pm is this going to suck? you bet. are we all gonna die? eventually. in the meantime i need to scoop the litter box.
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seriously though, my cat is diabetic and even with twice-daily insulin injections he pisses up an absolute storm. he's a machine that makes concrete out of clumping litter. it wasn't a pretty picture when i got back yesterday from seeing Michael Rother in New York City.

i'm sorry if i sounded overly dismissive. believe me, i know how you feel...after the inauguration i went into a black hole i only got out of by making myself work on the Hopf project guitar. i wasn't joking back in my early days here when i called it my Occupational Therapy. i'm only staying sane by avoiding news as much as possible. i've carefully curated my social media to keep that shit as far away from me as possible.
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I'm totally serious! I've been taking refuge in Zen recently, and that really encapsulates some core teachings (as I understand them).
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Friendship is right. There's something to be said for mundane routine. What you said about having to change your cats litter box oddly sat with me. Hits the whole "control what you can instead of worrying about what you can't" mindset. I've been pretty doomer brained ever since 2020, so I gotta work at fighting that mindset. Only leads to spirals and binges on my end.

Seance, thank you as well for your words. I made a reading list out of the authors you typed out. I need to read some more books. So far I've been reading Thurston Moore's autobiography and a book on Anarchy called "Warlike, Howling, Pure" that takes Anarchy and connects it to spiritualism and religion. But I read way too slowly these days. Entirely cause of my phone and my own lack of self control. Its something I'm trying to change, so thanks for giving me some fuel to work with.

Apart from that, I'm just pouring all I have into my music. The response has been great so far. We just need the right people to hear us....
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BitchPudding wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:32 pm I made a reading list
Also worth reading is the Martin Ferguson Smith translation of Lucretius, On the Nature of Things.
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I know from personal experience that some amount of filtering out the news media madness feels not only helpful, but necessary. But I would caution that when taken too far this is harmful. We can't just close our eyes and hope for this nightmare to end. They are "flooding the zone" in an effort to shut down our brains and our ethics and morality and put us into a docile state of discombobulated disbelief and exasperation.

In my opinion the best news source on American TV, the least tainted with "infotainment" and bias, is the PBS Newshour. And... you guessed it, there are active efforts underway by MAGUmplicans to defund and destroy PBS.

Libraries are under attack. An informed electorate is central to democracy. The core mandate of libraries and universities is to preserve information and to provide equal access to that information and their other services.

Reading, informing yourself, isn't about what to think, but how to think. Certain demagogues claim that libraries and universities are "indoctrinating" people—but what libraries and universities are actually doing is teaching people how to ask questions, thereby arming people with the tools necessary for critical thought—how to think, how to weigh a set of experiences or facts as recorded in history or the arts when a person is considering what to do in an important, real-life situation in the real world.

Which is what they fear the most: an informed electorate making decisions based on rational thought and not solely on emotion (fear, anger, hatred) and personal animus and stereotypes and prejudices that are based on one or a few bad perceived or real experience.

Anybody trying to crack down on what can be said or thought is a clear and present danger to this central pillar of democracy (creating an informed electorate).

So the solution is to engage with and protect the public institutions that store and provide information. Privatized information that is "owned" by some oligarch can be deleted or altered to suit their personal needs.

There is a fantastic 1988 short film by Richard Linklater in which he claims that the film's title is an "old Russian Proverb":
"It's Impossible to Plow by Reading Books."

But this isn't true. In China they not only invented a plow in the 1000s that a single farmer with a single draft animal could control in order to plow an entire field all by themselves, but they also wrote books about how to plow (with illustrations).
Robert Temple writes:
"By the end of the Song dynasty in 1279, Chinese ploughs had reached a state of development that would not be seen in Holland until the 17th century."
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If I am elected supreme leader I will deport everyone that bought a maga hat to middle of Niger :!!!:
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I just want to reach and thank everyone who voted for megatwat.. magatwat? For fucking up everything including the postal service.. every. Fucking. Thing. I have ordered from overseas gets bounced around the fucking country now and takes 4 times as long as it used to. I used to get stuff from Japan faster than from the east coast.. now my fucking neck plate was sent from LA to New York to be sent back to Washington… so much more efficient….
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I think he's planning on starting his own private crypto postal service.
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Mailing crypto makes as much sense as any other crypto business not aligned with its base functions (fraud, money laundering, and other crime).
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Gone Fission wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 6:57 pm as any other crypto business not aligned with its base functions (fraud, money laundering, and other crime).
Im not the only that believes this? I feel less along….. :group:
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i’m pretty sure most people who aren’t shilling crypto believe/know that.
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dubkitty wrote: Tue May 27, 2025 3:51 am shilling crypto
great band name :snax:

They're an Emo band, right?
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My long time supervisor at work retired this week and there was a get together at a bar/restaurant at the end of the day. Dude lives in West Mifflin, which was where DJT was yesterday.

No one really talks about politics at work, though I am pretty sure something like half of the folks I work with voted Trump.

To my great relief, my retiring supervisor walked into his party and said he wanted to make sure he was home in time to give Trump 2 middle fingers when his plane took off (the county airport is near this guy's house and the spot where Trump appeared).
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BitchPudding wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:23 pm I'm glad some of you can laugh. I really am.

Meanwhile, I lie awake wondering when my in laws will be dissapeared off the street simply for existing.

I sob late into the night wondering if my children will live to see adult hood.

I force away vomit through hyperventilation wondering if my and my wife will get to die old, happy and together.

I sit outside at 4am in my studio, staring at the sky towards San Francisco. Wondering when I'll see a sudden white flash followed by nothingness. Unaware as everything I know and love is wiped from history.

God I wish I could laugh. All I want is to laugh.

At least I can keep trying to sedate myself. A coma would be better than living like this.

I absolutely get it, times are terrifying, but I still laugh at the absurdity of it.
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