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New post of an old recording from easter -
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcOJ3fOzcWk[/youtube]

Pretty typical stuff for me, just getting it off my to do list really. Next up is a modular archive album, which I'm almost done finishing up the cover for. It's just a small collection of my best youtube and soundcloud sessions, with a couple more new recordings, all remastered for a nice album sound. 8 tracks/82 minutes, coming to bandcamp soonish...

...and, finished! https://warpsmasher.bandcamp.com/album/stormclouds


Now I'm freed up to get cracking on some more visual stuff with after effects. I've also been browsing the animation forums at reddit, where I've learned a bit about free 3d animation softwares like blender and krita, which are used on movies and TV, and have a pretty robust community full of videos and resources, so I might be trying some exercises with those guys soon too. I need to start learning some useful 3D stuff if I'm ever gonna broaden my output to fully produced animation (with all the sound). That's my new goal now that the computer is done, to develop my own (hopefully) fast style of full video production using everything I know. I feel like if I can get a good system down for fast 3D, I already have enough 2D, drawing, after effects and photoshop experience to restyle any plain looking stuff, and the audio and sound design side of it should just be a fun-filled piece of cake, with fuzzy modular icing.

beware that blender is a life long thing to be good. it is extremely difficult and counter intuitive. the only way anyone gets good at blender is to work through getting better with %100 dedication. since you already use after effects, you might be better off learning black magic fusion since it is similar but it introduces 3D. I use fusion 360 for 3D design. it is free and it is easy. Rhino 3D is cheap if you are a student. more in depth modeling should be done in modeling software. rhino vs fision 360 is really about organic shapes vs engineering ones. you can also design a model in blender and bring it into black magic fusion. you get away with a lot of half assed 3D modeling techniques if you are not 3D printing since you don't need closed non-intersecting manifolds.

Thanks, I'll definitely add fusion 360 (already found a torrent for Rhino). It sounds like what I thought on first impression of blender, after watching a couple of how-to vids. There are some tricks I would like to learn with it though, like animating 2d drawings on a 3d plane; I can do similar in AE with compositing, but something a little faster and deeper would be great. Not sure how much I want to use 3d figures/characters over 2d yet; right now I'm mainly interested in 3D for cityscapes, buildings, rooms and scenery, but I might want to try some creature design at some point too. I hadn't even begun to consider 3D printing possibilities, that just expands the whole view like woah...that's good to know about getting away with half assed techniques too, as that is basically what I'm wanting it for - simple blank stuff that can be finished/customized with hand drawing and/or after effects, or similar.

well you could just use unreal engine for all that and use the assets they give you for free. you don't need to design landscapes and city skyline. you just drag and drop assets into your project.

Oh shit, yeah that sounds perfect. Definitely got some homework piling up now...

all you video talk confuses yet excites me. it's... an odd feeling.

will listen to that album sharpish suh.

murf. Typhon got back, they couldn't find anything wrong with it. it works fine when i send MIDI from a hardware device into it (tried the Seq and DigiKeys), but as soon as the MIDI is coming from Live, kablooey. turns total shit. i tried a bunch of different things, even went from a scratch Set file. i'm doing an External Instrument insert, then tried sending out a USB to MIDI DIN cable, nope. tried out a device that works fine with Live like the Hydrasynth or Digitakt then out their through into Typhon, nope. tried unplugging the hub all the audio/MIDI over USB is going through, two different USB to MIDI DIN cables from a USB port on my desktop, nope. even tried with each of those setups a Max For Live MIDI Filter before the External Instrument and filtered out everything but note data. still Fuck It Ups ensued. woot.

it sounds REALLY fucking good too, so would love to like..... get it to WORK.

only thing i haven't tried is running Cubase as a DAW and seeing if it still freaks out. will try that tomorrow i guess.

other Is It Fucked Up Or Is It Me problem right now - i was trying to keep a super small setup in front of my hardware loots so i grabbed an Erica Synths Pico MOD. i can get it to see gates and triggers, i can get it to send out the envelopes that said gates and triggers... trigger. but i can NOT get the VCA output to work. it is supposed to be a tiny 3 hp self contained envelope into VCA thing, which is what i wanted. but. the VCA section doesn't seem to do anything. again, woot.

Natural Gates is really fucking fun though? that's...... something?

[youtube][/youtube]

i'm just getting a little burnt out on spending half my time trying to get things to work instead of just sitting down and making noises. it's not that complex of a setup.

behndy wrote:all you video talk confuses yet excites me. it's... an odd feeling.

will listen to that album sharpish suh.

murf. Typhon got back, they couldn't find anything wrong with it. it works fine when i send MIDI from a hardware device into it (tried the Seq and DigiKeys), but as soon as the MIDI is coming from Live, kablooey. turns total shit. i tried a bunch of different things, even went from a scratch Set file. i'm doing an External Instrument insert, then tried sending out a USB to MIDI DIN cable, nope. tried out a device that works fine with Live like the Hydrasynth or Digitakt then out their through into Typhon, nope. tried unplugging the hub all the audio/MIDI over USB is going through, two different USB to MIDI DIN cables from a USB port on my desktop, nope. even tried with each of those setups a Max For Live MIDI Filter before the External Instrument and filtered out everything but note data. still Fuck It Ups ensued. woot.

it sounds REALLY fucking good too, so would love to like..... get it to WORK.

only thing i haven't tried is running Cubase as a DAW and seeing if it still freaks out. will try that tomorrow i guess.

other Is It Fucked Up Or Is It Me problem right now - i was trying to keep a super small setup in front of my hardware loots so i grabbed an Erica Synths Pico MOD. i can get it to see gates and triggers, i can get it to send out the envelopes that said gates and triggers... trigger. but i can NOT get the VCA output to work. it is supposed to be a tiny 3 hp self contained envelope into VCA thing, which is what i wanted. but. the VCA section doesn't seem to do anything. again, woot.

Natural Gates is really fucking fun though? that's...... something?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcPk2LTAps8[/youtube]

i'm just getting a little burnt out on spending half my time trying to get things to work instead of just sitting down and making noises. it's not that complex of a setup.

this is missing tons of detail to be of any use to me in figuring out what you did exactly but I will try to give you some ways to test it more.

https://www.dreadbox-fx.com/wp-content/ ... Manual.pdf

read page 16 and 17. setup the typhon to listen on channel 5 for example. 1, 2, 16 are common defaults for other gear and some software. we want to avoid conflicts and duplicates. 5 is a safe random number to test. do NOT leave the typhon setup to listen on all channels. this is not best practice. midi is not something that just works. you need to select a channel, you need to enable each device and type in and out in live preferences. when you create a new midi track in live you need to select a device and midi channel. everything needs to match the device and channel for the typhon. you can also test with the qwerty keyboard as a midi keyboard for the typhon if you click the icon to enable midi keyboard top right. you must have remote turned on for that device in preferences. you must have the midi track corresponding to the midi output device and channel as active (focus). this is not always true for playback. I really don't think you should use an external instrument insert. I stopped using live a while ago but I always used midi tracks. the audio comes back on an unrelated audio track. you can group them if you want to. you can make an instrument rack out of it so the template can be reused. having note on messages work ok but the note off messages never arrive makes me think that you are sending duplicate data that triggers an unknown software glitch. they can't reproduce the problem if they send pretty normal midi data. I think you have a midi loop with midi through on your gear or you are sending on all channels in live by default. imagine sending the same note on message 16 times, have the channel number erased when they get muxed inside the typhon. then the 16 identical midi off messages arrive at the same time and get muxed. if the stack overflows at 15 it makes perfect sense to me as a computer programmer. 0 means nothing. 15 means 15 notes on a single note stack. 16 overflows a 4 bit data type. all very hypothetical without source code.

when you plug in that usb to midi din cable you need to open midi preferences in live. read the live manual on what the buttons do for track sync remote. use the max for live midi monitor. try sending a single note and monitoring the messages. midi is bandwidth limited. mostly 7 bit values over a connection as slow as dial up internet. if you use something like LFO tool that is simply right out.

Noob "I don't know what the fuck I'm doing" time:

Do you think the DPO is a good primary oscillator for a beginner?

I know I can bypass all of the final output complex oscillator stuff, if I wanted basic wave forms.

It was my first module.
Mostly got it because I thought it was cool and could grow into it.
Now that I've spent more time with it......I'm not sure.

I'm only just learning how to use my system and learning make sounds that aren't terrible.
Learning more than ever but not really making cool sounds yet.

It's got plenty of options. I doubt I need to list them all here.
I barely know why I'd want folding or FM bus capabilities.
A couple overview/tutorial videos talk about it not staying in pitch, in certain modes over 1 octave.

I'm not unhappy with it but for the price/HP........pretty expensive and large but also flexible and unique sounding.
BUT think of what could replace it for less! *noob trap*

I'm wondering if I'd be better off with a Z3000 or Dixie II for now?
There are so many options. ZPO.

I also have Disting and uVCF (sine only) as alternative oscillators.

yo Folks, I just dropped a eurorack modular album.

Tracks recorded using only a 42 hp system, no external processing or overdubs.

Let's call it "pastoral electronics" ---

https://immigrantbreastnest.com/album/splinter-tone

GAS KING wrote:Noob "I don't know what the fuck I'm doing" time:

Do you think the DPO is a good primary oscillator for a beginner?

I know I can bypass all of the final output complex oscillator stuff, if I wanted basic wave forms.

It was my first module.
Mostly got it because I thought it was cool and could grow into it.
Now that I've spent more time with it......I'm not sure.

I'm only just learning how to use my system and learning make sounds that aren't terrible.
Learning more than ever but not really making cool sounds yet.

It's got plenty of options. I doubt I need to list them all here.
I barely know why I'd want folding or FM bus capabilities.
A couple overview/tutorial videos talk about it not staying in pitch, in certain modes over 1 octave.

I'm not unhappy with it but for the price/HP........pretty expensive and large but also flexible and unique sounding.
BUT think of what could replace it for less! *noob trap*

I'm wondering if I'd be better off with a Z3000 or Dixie II for now?
There are so many options. ZPO.

I also have Disting and uVCF (sine only) as alternative oscillators.

The DPO is good. The wavefolder is one of my favorite sounds. People comment on how nothing is a direct replacement for that specific wavefolder. There is no wrong answer in modular. If you don't like it then sell. I have two Dixie II. They are good to learn FM because you actually see how it works. You can patch a VCO to a VCA to a 1v/oct or exp FM or lin FM input. The 1v/Oct input is exactly the same as the exp FM input. The only difference is that the exp FM input goes to an attenuator first. This is labeled FM AMT amount or FM CV or EXP FM. FM does cause a dixie II to rise in pitch. You can factor that out of you set the a attenuator at some constant amount of FM and retune the carrier VCO. I always use sine waves for everything. If your VCO is good or muddy for FM varies with different VCO. The Rubicon 1 is really good because it has through zero AC coupled FM. It has trimmers on the back. It definitely stays in tune with FM. You could sell the DPO for the Rubicon. The Rubicon 2 has an error they forgot to put AC coupling on the FM input. The designer confirmed that intelijel changed his design for some unknown reason. Perhaps a tech can solder a cap in there.

eatyourguitar wrote: The DPO is good. The wavefolder is one of my favorite sounds. People comment on how nothing is a direct replacement for that specific wavefolder. There is no wrong answer in modular. If you don't like it then sell. I have two Dixie II. They are good to learn FM because you actually see how it works. You can patch a VCO to a VCA to a 1v/oct or exp FM or lin FM input. The 1v/Oct input is exactly the same as the exp FM input. The only difference is that the exp FM input goes to an attenuator first. This is labeled FM AMT amount or FM CV or EXP FM. FM does cause a dixie II to rise in pitch. You can factor that out of you set the a attenuator at some constant amount of FM and retune the carrier VCO. I always use sine waves for everything. If your VCO is good or muddy for FM varies with different VCO. The Rubicon 1 is really good because it has through zero AC coupled FM. It has trimmers on the back. It definitely stays in tune with FM. You could sell the DPO for the Rubicon. The Rubicon 2 has an error they forgot to put AC coupling on the FM input. The designer confirmed that intelijel changed his design for some unknown reason. Perhaps a tech can solder a cap in there.

Yeah, I slept on it and realized I was just GAS'ing.
The DPO is good enough for what I'm doing now.....and beyond. I don't really have much for tonal taste in modular yet.
Need to wait until I actually need a 2nd VCO, before I get one. (even then I have other multipurpose modules that can do it)
I've been actively fighting GAS since I restarted the modular hobby again.
I've been putting a lot more effort into learning and experimenting this time around at least.
The temptation to fill my case is unreal. lol
Need to keep focused on learning, experimenting and progress before I throw more money at this.

Thanks for the other info/explanations.
I like hearing about modular so I can add to my research list.

EatAllTheGuitars - good advice suh. have barely had music room time the last few days, will try our your suggestions when i do.

Gas King Of Intestinal Wants - yeahhhhh. if you're happy, stay with it. i'm having a blast with a way smaller setup for euro. and knowing enough to plan for the goal instead of just OOO SHINY THAT WILL FIT.

just got a Surface in, so far seems perfect for the smaller layout, useful if it's a full synth voice, approach i want right now. less full blown combo building blocks than euro can be, but it way better fits for me right now.

first patch with Surface -

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njDg14z4OpM[/youtube]

after some time in on the Seq, i am verrrry glad i got to borrow one instead of buying. it's pretty fucking boss, but i have other sequencers that do the same in ways i like better. annnnnnnd the dealbreaker is that it autosaves. i can't roll like that. i would make something i LOVE then try to adjust one thing, accidentally fucking WRECK it, then not be able to go back. nope. no thanks.

i enjoy sequencing on the Push more for melodics, and on Push or an Elektron box more for beats.

beautiful little box though.

also, i'm a bit confused on Expert Sleepers options. if i wanted to get gates and CV into the computer, Silent Way and the ES-3? i'm loving the Metron and Volteras so much more in a small setup, thinking about putting the Flux in a smaller Pod with some. DAW interface module(s).

behndy wrote:Gas King Of Intestinal Wants - yeahhhhh. if you're happy, stay with it. i'm having a blast with a way smaller setup for euro. and knowing enough to plan for the goal instead of just OOO SHINY THAT WILL FIT.

I watch your videos and have no idea how you're making those sounds. Really good.




After I thought about it more.....it's not the DPO, it's me.
I've been focusing on learning the DPO and understand what each section does. Experimenting with how various modulation works with each CV input. Still much to learn.

A different OSC isn't going to change anything for me.
I'm not experienced enough to know the difference tonally or prefer one OSC to the next.
I don't need pitch perfect in all configurations. I'm using random voltage and quantizer to make programed sounds or SQ-1 for sequencing. I haven't messed with my QuNexus since getting back into this.

My modular experience is mostly failures (having a modular that I can't make sound good) but creating a lot of chances to learn from those to progress.
I'm regularly fighting "if I buy a thing, that will unlock the sword from the stone" thoughts about unlocking the potential of my rack.
I'm at 6ux88hp now.
all of the tools I need are there but I don't know how to use them.

I can barely make a patch that sounds good/nice or sounds cohesive. Let alone a multi layered track in one patch.
Right now, I blindly patch and make garbage sounds.......sometimes stumble upon happy accidents.....then try to figure out why it's good and how I did it.

My plan is to next start working on patching simple drum/rhythmic sounds. That's the foundation I think I'm missing to get a more satisfying result.

Need to keep at it. I'm waiting for that "ah ha" moment.
It's strange being older and going through the hurdles of learning a new instrument.

Yeah it's just like learning guitar etc. Try to think of a sound you want. Then try to make it using 1 or two modules, and only those modules. Then do this for a few different sounds. Then add more modules.