Is ILF too cliquey? Are we pushing people away? BST question

[Seance]

Dude.. my man! We should hang out. I'll buy beer!!

[Jero]

You're obviously just not enough of a nerd.

Obviously.


But permit me to engage in this tangential rant for a hot minute......





I am not a "pedal nerd" because that term is fucking bullshit. This whole "blahblah nerd" shit has jumped the shark.
I reject the word "nerd".

If "nerd" is applied to everything for which people are enthusiastic or even just vaguely interested in,
then the word means nothing. Time to kill that word and bury it with "bling" and "butt hurt" in an unmarked
grave. Does that make me a "language nerd"? Or perhaps this post proves that I'm a "rant nerd"?

It's like the fucking word "hipster". It means nothing. "Hipster" is always other people doing pretty much the same
things that you do. A woman I know with horn-rim glasses and sleeve tattoos who incessantly embroiders inane bullshit and
sells it on Etsy always natters on caustically about "hipsters" and what "hipsters" do and how terrible they are.
What in the living fuck?!? Why hate who you are and what you do? Why hate people who like/love the same things you do?

The internet makes most things mutually present and coequal on the same playing field. To hate those who love what you
love is to allow the internet to infect your thinking processes and determine your own stances. In politics this is poisonous.
In cultural life it is a stance devoid of sense or empathy or humanity.

And let's be honest, "hipsters" were originally the Beats. Then a new generation came along that wanted to be some of that,
but also were a bit of something else and people basically called them pseudo or "wannabe hipsters" by calling them "Hippies".
They weren't quite cool enough, or legitimately cool, in the eyes of the Beats.

So are modern "hipsters" a shoddy imitation of a shoddy imitation of real 1950s "hipster"? The tactic of being "ironic" about
everything that you surround yourself with and drape on your body and ingest was a response to the deadly boring "earnestness"
of the Hippies. But enthusiasm is not the problem... being fake or hypocritical and contradictory about it is the problem.

There was a documentary about the "Summer of Love" in San Francisco and this old Hippie guy talked about how "fun" it was
to not have a job, "ball chicks" and get high and then get free meals courtesy of The Diggers. And then he bemoaned how
just a few years later it was "such a bummer" when the people getting those free meals "really needed them". They broke
the fantasy! Their real and legitimate need and poverty sullied the illusion of this entitled Hippie-cockhead. He was just
play-acting Utopia and these dirty, sullied real humans ruined his fantasy with their actuality and real struggles.

But just because Hippies are hypocrites doesn't mean that enthusiasm or genuine engagement is lame or meaningless.


The only solution is to start talking about being a "hipster nerd". Perhaps the self-referential outwardly expressed
self-loathing will create a blackhole that will consume the word "hipster" and the word "nerd" foreve


At the end of the day, deep down in my heart, I guess I'm pretty much a "fart nerd". Fart jokes just do
not miss. Every time I hear a car horn or a buzzer go off I say "Excuse me"—acting as if I had just farted.
It never gets old. Part of the joke is apologizing for farting since the world is now a place where
people don't apologize for verbal diarrhea, much less for an inert percussive poof of air farted in an elevator.


And that, evidently, is why my post count is so low.

Now see if you had posted all that, one sentence at a time like most people, you'd be up there





I've been here forever, and get ignored all the time who cares
I don't really "contribute" anymore though so it's expected I guess.

[BetterOffShred]

I just be me, some of you like what I have to say, the rest can go duck themselves... nah JK. I do think you guys can be mini and clone haters muahaha I said it.

[Jwar]

What is the problem here? We aren't nice to new kids? Hmm? Is it because some of them come here looking to push their new products, their overpriced hype pedals, their band, their demo videos, or gain influencer cred by acquiring more followers? Or do they want to participate in a larger community of explorers of sounds, gear, and otherwise appreciate the humor? People in the former group aren't welcomed because we aren't here for that shit, while the latter group is more than welcome to assimilate. There are a lot of newer names that are fitting in nicely with only a few exceptions of blatant trolling and obtuse agendas.

It is funny that the purpose of a forum is to cultivate a community of like-minded individuals. Eventually relationships and bonds are formed. Running jokes and memes occur. Suddenly it is a "clique" and seen as a bad thing. Yet, I don't see ILF as exclusive. If anyone wants to participate in discussions then they can and will be included. There are a lot of posts in every thread that aren't quoted or replied to, but they do count as part of a larger narrative.

Ironic to introduce the idea that we aren't open to strangers while simultaneously suggest that we have a post-count gate so strangers can't participate in the B/S/T. As it is now, we are pretty open to having complete random people make an account and post whatever pedal for whatever price. We are open to stranger danger, even though sometimes we don't want to get in the van and eat the candy.

I feel like I need to respond to this.

While I get what you're saying about the spammy type folks, I don't think you're quite getting what I'm saying in general. The people I'm talking about aren't just demoers (though this topic did stem because of one), it's about people in general.

Take for instance the folks from TB that joined last year. Before they were even given a fair shake, some folks were telling them to fuck off back to Talkbass. Is that ok with the whole here because I certainly don't think it's ok.

I've also seen it done with a lot of new members who even attempt to jump in on topics. Not always mind you, just enough for me to notice.

ILF is NOT an exclusive club but I surely see that club/mob mentality anytime anyone doesn't agree with the majority.


I don't find it ironic in the slightest to suggest a that there ought to be gating on the BST, perhaps a bit coincidental since my mind randomly occurred on the though.

You got two extremely different sides of a coin there sir. One involves simply talking and conversing on a human level. The other involves money and the potential loss of said money or property that cannot be reclaimed.

[Jwar]

Nobody knows me but please check out all my fake clones in bst and hit me up yo...

I know thee lover.

[comesect2.0]

There are a lot of newer names that are fitting in nicely with only a few exceptions of blatant trolling and obtuse agendas.

who?

[actual]

Me.

[coldbrightsunlight]

You're obviously just not enough of a nerd.

Obviously.


But permit me to engage in this tangential rant for a hot minute......





I am not a "pedal nerd" because that term is fucking bullshit. This whole "blahblah nerd" shit has jumped the shark.
I reject the word "nerd".

If "nerd" is applied to everything for which people are enthusiastic or even just vaguely interested in,
then the word means nothing. Time to kill that word and bury it with "bling" and "butt hurt" in an unmarked
grave. Does that make me a "language nerd"? Or perhaps this post proves that I'm a "rant nerd"?

It's like the fucking word "hipster". It means nothing. "Hipster" is always other people doing pretty much the same
things that you do. A woman I know with horn-rim glasses and sleeve tattoos who incessantly embroiders inane bullshit and
sells it on Etsy always natters on caustically about "hipsters" and what "hipsters" do and how terrible they are.
What in the living fuck?!? Why hate who you are and what you do? Why hate people who like/love the same things you do?

The internet makes most things mutually present and coequal on the same playing field. To hate those who love what you
love is to allow the internet to infect your thinking processes and determine your own stances. In politics this is poisonous.
In cultural life it is a stance devoid of sense or empathy or humanity.

And let's be honest, "hipsters" were originally the Beats. Then a new generation came along that wanted to be some of that,
but also were a bit of something else and people basically called them pseudo or "wannabe hipsters" by calling them "Hippies".
They weren't quite cool enough, or legitimately cool, in the eyes of the Beats.

So are modern "hipsters" a shoddy imitation of a shoddy imitation of real 1950s "hipster"? The tactic of being "ironic" about
everything that you surround yourself with and drape on your body and ingest was a response to the deadly boring "earnestness"
of the Hippies. But enthusiasm is not the problem... being fake or hypocritical and contradictory about it is the problem.

There was a documentary about the "Summer of Love" in San Francisco and this old Hippie guy talked about how "fun" it was
to not have a job, "ball chicks" and get high and then get free meals courtesy of The Diggers. And then he bemoaned how
just a few years later it was "such a bummer" when the people getting those free meals "really needed them". They broke
the fantasy! Their real and legitimate need and poverty sullied the illusion of this entitled Hippie-cockhead. He was just
play-acting Utopia and these dirty, sullied real humans ruined his fantasy with their actuality and real struggles.

But just because Hippies are hypocrites doesn't mean that enthusiasm or genuine engagement is lame or meaningless.


The only solution is to start talking about being a "hipster nerd". Perhaps the self-referential outwardly expressed
self-loathing will create a blackhole that will consume the word "hipster" and the word "nerd" forever.




At the end of the day, deep down in my heart, I guess I'm pretty much a "fart nerd". Fart jokes just do
not miss. Every time I hear a car horn or a buzzer go off I say "Excuse me"—acting as if I had just farted.
It never gets old. Part of the joke is apologizing for farting since the world is now a place where
people don't apologize for verbal diarrhea, much less for an inert percussive poof of air farted in an elevator.










And that, evidently, is why my post count is so low.

A+ rant

[Jwar]

Only a nerd would be upset about being called a nerd.

[Seance]

Now see if you had posted all that, one sentence at a time like most people, you'd be up there

Yeah. If you're into that whole brevity thing.

[Seance]

Only a nerd would be upset about being called a nerd.

I don't object to being called a nerd. I object to the word "nerd" being overused as a derisive humble-brag about anything and everything.

There are no filthy degenerates anymore... just porn-nerds.

There are no swimmers anymore... just pool-nerds.

There are no longer people who need and enjoy sleeping... just sleep-nerds.



Fuck all of that. Fart Nerds or nothing.

[BetterOffShred]

My man!!

You and me and some beers and guitars.. we can make fun of everything for days!!

[Blackened Soul]

Now see if you had posted all that, one sentence at a time like most people, you'd be up there

Yeah. If you're into that whole brevity thing.

Life is to short otherwise plus text walls are scary and can make you feel like molerats are eating your brain.

[gnomethrone]

I DONT DANCE NOW
I MAKE MON3Y MOVVVVES

[comesect2.0]

DORK!