I want a Science Amplifier

[waltdogg]

Takes pedals very well. I leave mine set a bit more clean and rely on an old OCD for dirt. I can hear my delay and reverb very clearly. The Hellhawk has a lot of low end too.

[whoismarykelly]

The Mother has a LOT of low end but a Street Sweeper is really a total opposite amp. If a lot of low end is important to you Alex can probably make an adjustment or to to make a Street Sweeper bass heavy. Just depends on how important the reverb is to you.

Thanks for the insight. I figured you'd have good input on this
I guess I really just need to chat with Alex about what I'm looking for and see what he suggests. Just hate to bother him.

Just to come at you sideways I vote Hellhawk and it's not even the same amp it used to be.

On paper Hellhawk doesn't really fit my needs but every time I listen to those sound samples on the site I waver. How did you like it with pedals?

I don’t think you’d be bothering Alex. He is very enthusiastic about customer service and getting folks an amp they like.

Hellhawk takes pedals well but you’re always going to be a little dirty. If clean is important don’t get a hellhawk.

[harpies]

^ditto that. I thought I was bugging Alex with tons of questions, but when talking with him, I think he just wanted me to be happy with my amp choice. He is one of the more engaging people in the business and very giving of his time. and I still want an earthling, but my decolonizer is going nowhere.

[BoatRich]

I mostly run 800 style amps and have been considering saving for a Hellhawk, but the Earthling also seems really rad. Either way I think I’m selling my block letter 5150 to finally put a deposit on one of these guys

[waltdogg]

Bought a real 2203 JMP. Decided the Hellhawk sounded better, raunchier but with a bit less max gain, and cleaned up in a nicer way.

[proceedeth]

I'm contemplating the Earthling in a 50w 2 channel variant with an effects loop. I primarily like to play fuzz heavy stoner doom type stuff. Not too familiar with the other Science offerings but seems like a killer Amp. The other one I was looking at is the Hellhawk but I think I'm pretty sold on the Earthling! It'd be replacing an OR15. Has anyone had a chance to plug into one?

[waltdogg]

The Hellhawk with the gain cranked and turned up gets nice and fuzzy and does the doom thing. The Mother also has tons of gain on tap but on a clean HiWatt-esq power amp, great if you are super high volume. But from what I can tell the Earthling is the holy grail for what you wanna do. Seeing as it's more or less based off the Matamp GT.

EDIT: Oh and for everyone else. A little birdie told me Alex is working on a "micro"/hybrid version of the Mother. Tube pre-amp. 700 watt solid state power amp. About the size of a MIG 50. I'm looking forward to this.

[BoatRich]

Does anyone have a 6l6 Hellhawk? How is it? I have a Peavey Butcher and I’m imagining it’s a better and lighter version of the same thing with a loop and switchable channels.

[waltdogg]

Does anyone have a 6l6 Hellhawk? How is it? I have a Peavey Butcher and I’m imagining it’s a better and lighter version of the same thing with a loop and switchable channels.

I share a lockout with Loma Prieta. They have 6L6s in their early generation Hellhawk. I can ask to compare to mine with EL34s if you want. Sean's a pretty nice dude.

For quick reference though I had a Butcher as well as a JMP over the course of the last year. And essentially they all sound like an SL/JCM but the Hellhawk is definitely the most "organic" sounding of the 3. I wouldn't say the EQ is tighter as it's the Super Bass tone stack not the SL/JCM tone stack, smoother or rounder is probably the right word. Ultimately I'd say The Butcher, VTM, MIG 100, and JMP/JCM800 are all far more aggressive and a bit sloppier than a Hellhawk. At least the early generation models I'm familiar with.

[odontophobia]

Does anyone have a 6l6 Hellhawk? How is it? I have a Peavey Butcher and I’m imagining it’s a better and lighter version of the same thing with a loop and switchable channels.

I share a lockout with Loma Prieta. They have 6L6s in their early generation Hellhawk. I can ask to compare to mine with EL34s if you want. Sean's a pretty nice dude.

For quick reference though I had a Butcher as well as a JMP over the course of the last year. And essentially they all sound like an SL/JCM but the Hellhawk is definitely the most "organic" sounding of the 3. I wouldn't say the EQ is tighter as it's the Super Bass tone stack not the SL/JCM tone stack, smoother or rounder is probably the right word. Ultimately I'd say The Butcher, VTM, MIG 100, and JMP/JCM800 are all far more aggressive and a bit sloppier than a Hellhawk. At least the early generation models I'm familiar with.

Sean is very tall.
I didn't really care for those new Loma tracks.

[waltdogg]

He is.

Taste is subjective. At least they're doing something different.

[mathias]

Hello. I love my Science amp. That is all.

[oldangelmidnight]

Me too!
I got a Mother v3 when he offered the holiday sale last year. It's great.

[mathias]

I’d dig a Science take on a hybrid amp. The Quilters and Milkman The Amp are cool, but one of his preamps in front of a class D power amp would be rad if it had a lot of gain. Shiv v2 maybe, or some other highly-portable head?

[whoismarykelly]

I’d dig a Science take on a hybrid amp. The Quilters and Milkman The Amp are cool, but one of his preamps in front of a class D power amp would be rad if it had a lot of gain. Shiv v2 maybe, or some other highly-portable head?

I think there may be a class D mother in the works but I'm not positive.