Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Does anyone know of a simple delay pedal that allows for modulation of the wet/dry mix? It is something i do a lot in software cause it allows for very effective weird effects. I get something like the boss DD500 would definetly pull it of. But I would prefer a simpler pedal.

Bummer that the Raster 2 doesn't pull it of! Poor move red panda labs!!
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Simple pedal, not that I know about, no. This is the sort of thing I would be looking for some sort of patchable mod matrix in the processor that I could assign an LFO to the parameter. What simple pedal is gonna have a control input or accept MIDI control of the mix parameter? My next best would to look to cheat by having MIDI LFOs control the wet delay and dry signal of the Cooper FX Signal Path Selector, but out of production and there aren’t a lot of MIDI controllable mixer pedals out there. That seems like a bigger kludge than getting a fancy delay pedal that you can do this sort of thing with on its own.
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Re: Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Do you mean have the wet delays mix in and out, like on a triangle wave or sine wave; like a tremolo? That’s a cool idea, probably wouldn’t be too hard to make with an LFO circuit… or did you mean an LFO changing the amount of repeats? That could be cool too… maybe the same LFO circuit could be used to modulate either… hmmm something for the future!
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It should be do-able in the plug in version of the Eventide H3000, and I assume the hardware version of same and similar products (Eclipse, H7600, Orville, H9000, etc).

I don't know if their pedal (H9, H90) products can do it.

I realize this goes against the "simple product" request of the OP.
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moid wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:45 am Do you mean have the wet delays mix in and out, like on a triangle wave or sine wave; like a tremolo? That’s a cool idea, probably wouldn’t be too hard to make with an LFO circuit… or did you mean an LFO changing the amount of repeats? That could be cool too… maybe the same LFO circuit could be used to modulate either… hmmm something for the future!
Yeah. It sounds a lot like a DJ crossfade and with a square it can sound very glitchy if set to arythmic rates
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Re: Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Phosphene Audio wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:58 am It should be do-able in the plug in version of the Eventide H3000, and I assume the hardware version of same and similar products (Eclipse, H7600, Orville, H9000, etc).

I don't know if their pedal (H9, H90) products can do it.

I realize this goes against the "simple product" request of the OP.
I dont think H9 has any algo like that. I am a pretty heavy user of the PF and TF and neither have any algos assigned to the effect mix. I think they have deliberately made the parameter as unaffected by algorith as possible for easier switching of presets. H90, maybe idk how in-depth the editing is, the big boy racks let you edit pretty wildly.

Plugin version of anything lets you do it very easily since you can just magically midi things inside the devil machine.

Think it would be easire just to do as GF said and get some LFO peripheral and use with the raster. Just hoped someone beat me to the punch cause honestly it is such an easy way to make glitchy sounds you could have done it in the 80s.
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Re: Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Yeah, it’s a weakness of the Eventide pedals that they don’t have a full bore mod matrix, just the stuff they want to give you in a specific algorithm. (It’s one of the things holding back the H90 from being an Eclipse replacement, even though it has a few comparative strengths.) They do tend to have pretty decent MIDI CC, though, if you can get modulation in that way, or I think they’ll generally take CV, though check the manual. There are a bunch of iOS apps that’ll do MIDI LFOs (like one I have named just that) that you can connect up with a wired interface or a wireless dongle like the CME WIDI Master.
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Re: Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Within the Line 6 M series, every parameter is assignable to an expression pedal. There are LFOs you can plug in exp. inputs. The Co-Pilot Broadcast for example, as far as I understand OBNE Expression Ramper, too. The EHX 8Step Sequencer has a glide function and can be set to LFO-like function and much, much more and I can confirm that it works flawlessly with the M series. I would probably choose M5 + 8 Step and go nuts but it'll take some serious real estate on the pedalboard. On the other hand it can be used for all sorts of crazy stuff beyond your initial idea.
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Re: Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Yeah I was lookin for a flanger that I could manipulate parameters with LFOs- I ended up with the EHX 8 step. Any delay with an assignable exp input is then fair game.

A simpler offering would be the OBNE expression ramper. Much cheaper than buying a DD-500 which is, to my knowledge, the only delay pedal with a built in assignable LFO. Aside from the Meris LVX.
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Re: Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Not simple per-se but I think maybe the Gamechanger Auto Delay can do this?
That series seems to be going on sale as of late, I've been kind of tempted by the chorus.
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Re: Delay with modulation of wet/dry

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Not a pedal per se, but this is the sort of thing you can patch on the Bastl Wizard, which I've been having fun with lately: https://bastl-instruments.com/instrumen ... -fx-wizard
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