The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[louderthangod]

With the solo stuff I'm working on...I don't even know how the song will turn out. Not because I'm splicing but because I'm improvising on every track and each track is in the 12-20 minute range. Usually I'm doing a guitar track sometimes with some loops running and then maybe I'll add some synth track afterwards, sometimes I'll add a simple vocal. Some tracks are just minimal guitar. Instead of doing 50 takes of one song till I get the best one, I'd rather write 50 songs and pick which ones seem to work the best. It's definitely taxing my creativity to avoid playing the same traps but it's been a lot of fun so far, at least when it works.

[van_muddlestein]

I have got to say, after switching through a ton of speakers for my VT40's I ended up loving one combo in particular. I have a pair of Fane AXA10 alnicos in one of them and it absolutely kills. They're not cheap new but I waited on thegearpage for a bit and some came up used. They're really well balanced, the actual speaker breakup is nice, and they get really loud before that breakup.

I've been looking potentially at the weber thames 12s as they're supposed to be Fane like. Real deal new fanes are a bit too rich for my blood. But you're not the first person to suggest something Fane or Fane like.

Sucks about your job. I just got my hours cut at work and am taking a $650 a month pay cut. I'm wanting to get a part time job screen printing here in town. Something to learn the rest of the trade so I can eventually run a shop out of my house that I can do on my off days.

We're touring in April and will be around Tampa / Orlando. If we get something set up we'd love to have you on the show. It'd be cool to meet up with some Doom Roomers.

I recommend highly to everyone in a band learning more about screen printing. DIY MOTHERFUCKER! Also, really looking forward to hearing new recordings. Also also, FUCK YEAH DUDE let's play some shows. Let me know info ASAP and we'll make it happen.

Eminence Wizards. All day. Every single day. I have 'em in one of my 412s, and the other has v30s. V4 into the V30 cab, V2 into the Wizard cab.

This is likely going to be where I end up. They seem to be VERY efficient speakers and I need something that's going to help me push more air.

I could be very interested in those EL34's. Never hurts to have spares.

PM me.

[ShaolinLambKiller]

With the solo stuff I'm working on...I don't even know how the song will turn out. Not because I'm splicing but because I'm improvising on every track and each track is in the 12-20 minute range. Usually I'm doing a guitar track sometimes with some loops running and then maybe I'll add some synth track afterwards, sometimes I'll add a simple vocal. Some tracks are just minimal guitar. Instead of doing 50 takes of one song till I get the best one, I'd rather write 50 songs and pick which ones seem to work the best. It's definitely taxing my creativity to avoid playing the same traps but it's been a lot of fun so far, at least when it works.

but that's totally different, it's also a creative build you are doing as you do it. that's completely fine. I'm only complaining about people who write a song that's say a typical black metal song that's 4 minutes long and they can't play it consistently or all the way for 4 minutes without mistakes or flubbing shit up. I was ranting more about people like that.

[BoatRich]

I don't believe in punch ins on anything.

I'm the same way, I definitely prefer to just record live. It feels and sounds way better. My last band could've finished our EP in two days if my guitarist hadn't insisted on redoing all of his leads, and it kinda soured me on the whole punching in thing.

[ShaolinLambKiller]

yea that's annoying, I kinda understand it on leads though to a degree. I don't do many, but mine are all usually made up on the spot after I'm done with everything else, then I just plop em on down. if I don't like the one take I'll do another but usually that first take works well enough.

It really annoyed me more so with one of my bands the guitarist after we have all already done everything wanted to add in basically an extra day's worth of work on adding little tidbit shit on guitar here and there.. and I was like we are a 3 piece why are you going to add all this shit that we can't even play live?

[Jäke]

Insofar as being able to recreate stuff live, that's a whole other philosophical divide in which both sides have totally valid perspectives. I think that it all depends on one's own personal vision for a song, album, or even a band.

I would never poo-poo a band for doing something that they're probably not going to be able to recreated in a live setting. To me, it's really just using the studio as an instrument and not necessarily a crutch. I mean, if everyone was a "purist" and did not geek out in the studio, there'd be no such thing as The White Album, Jimi's backwards leads, or any ridiculous number of great and extremely valid musical explorations.

[samzadgan]

Insofar as being able to recreate stuff live, that's a whole other philosophical divide in which both sides have totally valid perspectives. I think that it all depends on one's own personal vision for a song, album, or even a band.

I would never poo-poo a band for doing something that they're probably not going to be able to recreated in a live setting. To me, it's really just using the studio as an instrument and not necessarily a crutch. I mean, if everyone was a "purist" and did not geek out in the studio, there'd be no such thing as The White Album, Jimi's backwards leads, or any ridiculous number of great and extremely valid musical explorations.

agreed.

also, i dig bands doing weird stuff on recordings that may not be repeatable on their live set...makes the album more interesting...from the live perspective, it doesnt matter if they cant play some parts due to effects or whatever studio magic they cant recreate, as long as the essence of the song can be played live, then thats enough for me.

personally...with recording...i can only do it live, as i would find it very hard to play and keep time without playing with the full band (ie drums and bass)

[van_muddlestein]

Insofar as being able to recreate stuff live, that's a whole other philosophical divide in which both sides have totally valid perspectives. I think that it all depends on one's own personal vision for a song, album, or even a band.

I would never poo-poo a band for doing something that they're probably not going to be able to recreated in a live setting. To me, it's really just using the studio as an instrument and not necessarily a crutch. I mean, if everyone was a "purist" and did not geek out in the studio, there'd be no such thing as The White Album, Jimi's backwards leads, or any ridiculous number of great and extremely valid musical explorations.

This. The bands that usually appeal to me the most are the ones that create a completely different experience from the live show to the record. I don't need to hear an album replicated live, nor do I usually want to. I want something different that makes it an experience worth having.

[conky]

I'm not against punching in, I do it all the time when I record my vocals and will do it for anyone else I'm recording if it makes it easier. I dunno why I refuse to do it with my guitars though. I guess I'm just used to doing it on 4 track.

[samzadgan]

anyone have any experience with old Laney Pro-Linebacker amps? there's a head going cheap...has 2 channels and has the whole pro-tube push/pull knobs too.

[DannDubbleEwe]

There's an AOR Pro Tube Lead 50 for $300 local to me, for some reason I want it not much help there

Also, Dunwich Cthulu up for grabs, offering it to you all first:

NSFW: show

cause ya'll deserve it before BST. PM me, dudes. Can't justify keeping it right now. Fuckin slays.

[pelliott]

Ah shit. I'd be all over the AOR and Cthulhu if my money wasn't tied up elsewhere :/

[Iommic Pope]

I missed too much for a catch up post.
But that Cthulhu looks rad.

I got my AOR back from Tym's yesterday. There was the usual suspect resistor in the bias circuit frying power tubes, so I lost those NOS mullards which makes me a little sad. Ended up with JJs, and te new JJ filter caps I dropped off are in there. Much more friendly to play now.
Had a quick but low volume noodle for the first time in ages. Finally got my ape blaster back. So strange to hear that thing through a darker/warmer sounding amp. Still rad, though. Brings the thickness.
Also finally got to molest the doom bloom. T
Took me a good ten minutes to get my around it and adjust to the sound after the AB. But I dug it. Dialled in this kinda Lesbian meets Pallbearer sort of vibe, which is not usually where I head to tone wise, but I'm gonna leave it dialled in like that and see what I can do.

[misterstomach]

I have no problem with punch ins. Or other studio magic to make a recording interesting. We couldn't do punch ins on our demo and it was fine. I mean, you should generally be able to play your songs. Particularly short-ish black metal songs. But shit happens and I want recordings to be as perfect as possible so a punch in here and there isn't a big deal to me. We've been recording a bit recently. If I have a little flub 9 minutes into a 14 minute song, fuck it, I'm punching in if I can and I'm not going to feel bad about it. I play and sing better in real life than I do sitting in a weird room with headphones on by myself anyway, so I don't beat myself up if I don't pull off my best performance in one take in that weird situation. It's all a balance. There's a point where if you can't actually play your songs, you should practice more rather than record and put it out. And there's a point where you're justified in using the studio as a tool. And I like creative uses of the studio, even if it means you have to do something else to achieve that feeling live.

[worshipcult]

Here is another new song from the new Worship full length.

www.soundcloud.com/worshipcult/lifeless

would love some feedback.