The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[chillerthanmost]

I did sound for them last year at a local venue and their sound guy took over the PA with a bunch of nifty toys and they were pretty quiet. Agreed, good performance, but could have been felt better with a bit more volume. I think they are more into a "balanced" stage volume. Plus we are all used to loud bands, when the majority of their audience isn't really. Both bassist and guitarist were rocking Bluebeards which I thought was cool. I never got into their music though, so I can't comment more than that performance.

[samzadgan]

for the first time in about a month i was able to play guitar through my main amp and effects...was a lot of fun...and fuck me, i'd forgotten how good it sounded!

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/thefretboard/2015-01-samzadgan-rotm-sz[/soundcloud]

[van_muddlestein]

for the first time in about a month i was able to play guitar through my main amp and effects...was a lot of fun...and fuck me, i'd forgotten how good it sounded!

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/thefretboard/2015-01-samzadgan-rotm-sz[/soundcloud]

yes.

[chillerthanmost]

New (old) amp day tomorrow. And like a kid the night before disneyland, I can't sleep for shit.

[AxAxSxS]

I know that feeling.

[chillerthanmost]

Also got my Sound City running again. Turns out the 3Amp fuse that blew, although correct to schematic, is the wrong value when dealing with 110v (US). So I beefed it up to 6A and it seems to be louder with much more headroom than before. Never knew a fuse can make that much a difference. Could have just been my mind playing tricks on me, who knows, but the amp sounds great again. Also replaced the other old as fuck fuse that it uses for HT/B+. I wonder if that helped with my bias issue, I didn't even consider that when I had the amp open. Anyone know how much fuses have an effect on old amps?

[Iommic Pope]

for the first time in about a month i was able to play guitar through my main amp and effects...was a lot of fun...and fuck me, i'd forgotten how good it sounded!

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/thefretboard/2015-01-samzadgan-rotm-sz[/soundcloud]

God, I love that feeling. Nice clip man!
I got a bit of that yesterday and today. Starting to feel a little bit better, although the meds I'm on are knocking me around and I'm lethargic as fuck, but not good enough to get back to work yet. Also, carbonated beverages all taste flat and like they have been frozen, thawed, and re-chilled again. It is fucking gross. Went to have a beer for the first time in weeks the other day and it was pretty much the most disappointing shit ever.
So I got some quality time with the Doom Bloom, the FZ-2 and the Dirge Multiplex today.
Summon the Moon, mother fuckers.
I really like stacking the FZ-2 with things and it was a lot more gnarl with the DBloom after it. They did not play nice together in the best of ways, although I'm not certain how well that sound will stack up at real volumes, as it was already quite unstable at (Loud, AOR-type) bedroom levels (which are not really bedroom level). Kinda cool though. Sounded like that blunt instrument, bludgeoning you in the face tone that you get on early HoF records with just the tiniest hint of the HyperSatan thrown in there.
Would be largely improved with a comp out front though, neither is a big fan of holding a note for days.

Also, may need to think about a gate/suppressor for the loop of the AOR, unless I've got dirty power at home. Anyone do this to clean up a buzzy amp?
They are known to be noisy fuckers...

[samzadgan]

anyone seen these pedals?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDMHULL4dns[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTB8ZCb9OPg[/youtube]

[D.o.S.]

Orange Font, check.

Sabbath Reference, check.

edit: Tool riffs. I MUST HAVE IT.

[new05002]

Likely another JFET emulation in the make, seems a bunch of builders are throwing there hats in for those kind of things.

[conky]

Got my cleans finished on the new recordings. They sound fantastic but I'm not happy with my dirt tones at all. I'm not getting the sound I hear in the room to come through my monitors. Amp is cranked to stage volume, SM57 (haven't tried an Audix i5 yet though) moved away, right up on the grill cloth, angled from halfway in the cone pointed towards the dust cap.... none of it is sounding like I want it. Trying to get it sounding the way I want with a little eq added later. Tell me what I'm doing wrong guys.

[D.o.S.]

continuing to use an SM-57 if the SM-57 isn't working.

[conky]

continuing to use an SM-57 if the SM-57 isn't working.

But with its rep as a great mic for recording guitars i figured my problem must be user error. I mean, I'm nowhere near the sound of my amp. It almost sounds hollow and out of phase. I tried flipping the phase on the input but it made no difference in the tone. The closet I record in usually sounds pretty good for recording. The only thing different is that my wife has started filling it up with her clothes. Maybe I should take them out when I do my guitars. I may move the cab to the spare bedroom where I recorded Matt's guitars. His dirt tone sounded pretty good.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Got my cleans finished on the new recordings. They sound fantastic but I'm not happy with my dirt tones at all. I'm not getting the sound I hear in the room to come through my monitors. Amp is cranked to stage volume, SM57 (haven't tried an Audix i5 yet though) moved away, right up on the grill cloth, angled from halfway in the cone pointed towards the dust cap.... none of it is sounding like I want it. Trying to get it sounding the way I want with a little eq added later. Tell me what I'm doing wrong guys.

1) putting the mic right on the grill cloth can cause perceived bass response increase

2) angling the mic can cause a "distant" (reduced mids and highs) perception, for loud distorted guitar straight on usually works best

Put the SM57 an inch away from the grill cloth facing straight at the edge of the cone, if its a lil too bright move it towards the edge of the speaker. Do you have any other mic's you can throw on the cab ass well, such as a small diaphragm condenser? Using two mics per cab and mixing them together often yields the best results (just make sure they are in phase with each other, i.e; equi-distant or in a multiple of 3 [so if the the sm57 is an inch away put the SDC 3" or multiples there of away])

Also.... you keep saying it doesnt make the sound in the room your hearing. That's because your mic'ing the cab not the room. Why not try putting a condenser in the room at your ear level where you feel the guitar sounds best and then blending that with the sm57 so you can get a blend of the amps close up tone and the tone you hear in the room?

[D.o.S.]

It shouldn't be way off but IME the 57 is great because it refuses to die (and because it has a pretty nice/familiar EQ curve to it). I'll defer to other people with more recording experience than I have, and I know you've made some great sounding jams in the past, so I won't do the "stupid questions" list, like "are you aware that your monitors need to be turned up enough for you to really hear what the guitars sound like" because I know you're not an idiot.

edit: Skip has wise words.